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By: 2nd January 2010 at 22:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I can confirm that there is still a 6 cylinder Anzani at Old Warden.
If I remember my camera. I'll take a picture of it tomorrow for you.
By: 2nd January 2010 at 23:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-...guess you know these pics
http://www.yellow-eagle.eu/de/advertenties/adv_detail.php?advert_id=674
http://www.cmpr.it/Motori/index.htm and scroll down
Seattle's Museum of Flight, WA http://www.passion-aviation.qc.ca/images/musflight08/anzani.jpg
one half (3 cyl) http://www.flickr.com/photos/saminkuvat/2254837858/sizes/l/
By: 3rd January 2010 at 08:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Excellent feedback guys! Much appreciated!
Nosedive thank you for effort to snap a shot of it at Old Warden.
By: 3rd January 2010 at 11:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I have a feeling there is a six-cyl Anzani at the MoSI, Manchester (owned by The Aeroplane Collection) and hasn't the RAFMuseum's Bleriot XXVII got one attached???
Roger Smith.
By: 3rd January 2010 at 11:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I have a feeling there is a six-cyl Anzani at the MoSI, Manchester (owned by The Aeroplane Collection) and hasn't the RAFMuseum's Bleriot XXVII got one attached???Roger Smith.
Nope, that has a Gnome. The Caudron has one, that is probably what you were thinking of. There is also one on a stand as I remember.
Rather than ask on here the original poster would have been better off asking the RAF Museum store at RAF Stafford if they have any documentation. It would be my first place to look
Good luck
By: 3rd January 2010 at 11:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Nope, that has a Gnome. The Caudron has one, that is probably what you were thinking of. There is also one on a stand as I remember.Rather than ask on here the original poster would have been better off asking the RAF Museum store at RAF Stafford if they have any documentation. It would be my first place to look
Good luck
Thanks! Will do!
By: 3rd January 2010 at 12:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Shuttleworth Collection Anzani 6 cylinder engine.
By: 3rd January 2010 at 13:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Great shots, thanks!
By: 3rd January 2010 at 13:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Was this the very first twin-row radial engine?
By: 4th January 2010 at 11:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I just visited Hendon this last weekend and in the Graeme White Hangar is, I believe, one of these engines on display.
Bomberboy
By: 4th January 2010 at 12:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-.Rather than ask on here the original poster would have been better off asking the RAF Museum store at RAF Stafford....
He has provided an interesting thread, which is always good.
The Anzani is still on display at RAFM Cosford, I have it in the background of this pic.
PL, is it strictly a twin row, and not that the pitons were just staggered?
By: 4th January 2010 at 12:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thank you for all feedback guys!
There are still more Anzani 6 engines outthere than anticipated.
By: 4th January 2010 at 20:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-...is it strictly a twin row, and not that the pitons were just staggered?
Actually that is a very good point I would have said it was a twin-row radial, that is two three-cylinder radials on a common crankshaft, but the crankcase doesn’t look thick enough for a two-throw crank, so it possibly is a six-cylinder with staggered cylinders.....which wouldn’t work, or a two-throw crank without a centre bearing...
...which wouldn’t work either! :confused:
However, I seem to remember that there is a three-cylinder Anzani engine with the three cylinders spaced at 30° intervals and then a 300° gap (not the three cylinder 120° spacing version)...
...and that shouldn’t work either! :confused:
I also seem to remember some very strange arrangements for joining the connecting-rod big-ends to the crankshaft journals on Anzani engines which I will check-up on.
Here is a photo of the six-cylinder Anzani from the Graham-White hangar at Hendon that I took today. Feel free to copy it if you wish as I probably will not leave it here long at this file size. There is at least one other six-cylinder Anzani at Hendon that I saw today and I will post a photo later.
By: 4th January 2010 at 21:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Pop the word Anzani into the RAF Museum Navigator and...
http://navigator.rafmuseum.org/simpleSearch.page.do
...you'll find they have three, one at each site.
Anne
By: 4th January 2010 at 21:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Anzani was one of the engines I helped to restore when I was with the Aeroplane Collection.
It was stripped, cleaned, degreased and varnished (yes all its internals are varnished) before being re-assembled with stove enamelled cylinders - it may never run again but neither will it rot away.
By: 5th January 2010 at 00:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Here is the other photo I promised.
This was also taken at Hendon (yesterday) and this Anzani was fitted to the 'Bleriot' in the Milestones of Flight building.
Interestingly ‘British Anzani’ are still in business (although they went bankrupt in 1980)...
...but I think an enquiry about a six-cylinder aero-engine may throw them into a state of considerable confusion! :D
By: 5th January 2010 at 09:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Here is the other photo I promised.This was also taken at Hendon (yesterday) and this Anzani was fitted to the 'Bleriot' in the Milestones of Flight building.......
Thanks CD - I'm confused now though :confused: that is the XXVII?
The RAFM have two Bleriots - an XI and a XXVII - one hanging in the entrance at Cosford, the other in Milestones. The latter (the XXVII?) has a 6-cyl Anzani what does the Cosford one have fitted?
Oh, and what then does the Caudron have in it?? - another Anzani (Melvyn)?
Roger Smith.
By: 5th January 2010 at 12:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Oh, and what then does the Caudron have in it??
A ten-cylinder Anzani.....if we're thinking about the same thing from the Graham-White hangar...
...as you can tell, pre-WW2 aircraft aren't really my thing (but I think I have a photo of it)! :D
By: 5th January 2010 at 12:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks CD - I'm confused now though :confused: that is the XXVII?The RAFM have two Bleriots - an XI and a XXVII - one hanging in the entrance at Cosford, the other in Milestones. The latter (the XXVII?) has a 6-cyl Anzani what does the Cosford one have fitted?
Oh, and what then does the Caudron have in it?? - another Anzani (Melvyn)?
Roger Smith.
The XI that was at Cosford is now hanging up in Milestones - the XXVII is in the Grahame White Hangar. The Caudron is also fitted with an Anzani
By: 5th January 2010 at 13:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks again CD and Rob. To summarize then...
The RAFM has two or three 6-cyl Anzanis -
1. on the Bleriot XI in Milestones,
2. on the Caudron in the Graham White,
3. on a stand (possibly).
(and their Bleriot XXVII has a Gnome rotary)
and there are two others on display
4. Old Warden
5. MoSI, Manchester
Roger Smith
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By: André1967 - 2nd January 2010 at 17:36
Guys,
for a Pietenpol Aircamper project at Hoogeveen airport in the Netherlands, we plan to use a Anzani 6 engine (early model). Although we have the engine, documentation about flying and maintaining it is very scarce. Even internet offers few options. Up to the Anzani owner, there should still be 2 samples of this engine in the UK.
I found one at RAF Cosford and another should be at Old warden.
If one of you has pictures of these engines or any other Anzani 6 please let me know.
Best regards,
André
p.s. photo by me showing our Anzani 6 at home.