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By: 7th January 2010 at 23:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-RAF07.JPG This one is a mystery all round!
(Badly burnt) Bristol Blenheim Mk I
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The last one looks like a very poorly Blenheim Mk1
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-damn!:D
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-RAF06.JPG Definitely at RAF North Luffenham. TB had security authorisation to examine British and allied aircraft. Is anyone able to suggest the aircraft with its bubble open? Inscription on photo reads 'North Luffenham G1165 HGCU 04.10.44'
Must be an Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle.
'HGCU' possibly Heavy Glider Conversion Unit?
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-First one looks like an Armstrong Siddeley Atlas I.
No 3, Westland Wallace without spats.
Definately F Type aircraft sheds in background to both pics.
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-RAF04,05.06 looks like a summer camp for 604 squadron Auxiliary Air Force where Bell tents were quite common.
The quoted Tutor was on the squadron from 07.09.36. The tail markings look typical of the fighter squadron markings displayed by other units.
Interestingly the sqaudron later converted to Blenheim 1f which would tie in with the last photo. The Blenheims were at North Weald
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The biplane in the first picture is a Armstrong Whitworth Atlas, trainer version rather than the army co-operation version.
Fourth picture in a line up of Avro Tutors is a Airspeed Oxford at the far end, strange colour scheme that could be yellow, just looks odd due to the film.
In the open hatch picture some AW Whitleys are sitting in the far distance.
The biplanes in the third picture are Westland Wallace
Richard
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-RAF01.JPG
Armstrong Whitworth Atlas TM K14** (K1454-K1507) one of 53 trainers
By: 7th January 2010 at 23:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-In the open hatch picture some AW Whitleys are sitting in the far distance.
The aircraft with its hatch open is definitely an Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle and the presence of Whitleys would seem to fit the usage of North Luffenham perfectly at that time.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/s76.html
“When [North Luffenham] re-opened in March 1944, the station was used by No. 21 Heavy Glider Conversion Unit with Whitleys and Horsas. This HGCU began to receive Albemarles to replace the Whitleys shortly before moving out in September that year.”
By: 8th January 2010 at 07:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Atlas in photograph 1 is interesting in that not many were still in service in 1936.
There were a few with the Electrical & Wireless School at Cranwell so it could have been visiting if it is Manston in 1936
Amongst their aircraft were K1482 & K1483 which were with the Unit in 1936
By: 8th January 2010 at 10:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Atlas in photograph 1 is interesting in that not many were still in service in 1936.
There were a few with the Electrical & Wireless School at Cranwell so it could have been visiting if it is Manston in 1936
Amongst their aircraft were K1482 & K1483 which were with the Unit in 1936
That would fit well with the hangar type in the background, it is an F Type which was primarily an admiralty type but some where re-erected on RAF airfields, Cranwel did (does?) have them. Not sure that Manston did.
The same hangar design appears in the Wallace pic.
By: 8th January 2010 at 16:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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The biplanes in the third picture are Westland Wallace
The E &WS also used the Wallace so I suspect the pictures of the Atlas and Wallaces are at Cranwell in 1936
By: 8th January 2010 at 17:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Photo 2 is definitely not a Heyford cockpit, not sure about the Hendon.
Thanks for posting these photos by the way - they're fascinating.
By: 8th January 2010 at 19:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I think that the cockpit shot is a Hendon. The last 38 Sqn Hendon went to the Radio School at Cranwell
John
By: 8th January 2010 at 19:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I think that the cockpit shot is a Hendon.
John
Yes I thought Hendon except it looks like two seats one behind the other, were Hendons like that?
Richard
By: 8th January 2010 at 21:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Yes, There was a dual control version.
John
By: 8th January 2010 at 22:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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PS. How do I overcome the problem of allotted attachment space running out?
You can use photobucket or similar,this also means you can post bigger photos :D
Very nice photos btw
By: 8th January 2010 at 22:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-You can use photobucket or similar,this also means you can post bigger photos :D
Very nice photos btw
Thanks bazv, I do use photobucket, but they seem to take ever-and-a-day to load up!
By: 8th January 2010 at 23:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-RAF13.JPG and RAF14.JPG Are these all the same type of aircraft - Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle of HGCU?
Yes, both these are AW Albemarles.
By: 8th January 2010 at 23:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks bazv, I do use photobucket, but they seem to take ever-and-a-day to load up!
I suppose it depends on how many pics you upload,I usually select the 'images' I want and then go and do something else for a few mins :D
rgds baz
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By: Microscopia - 7th January 2010 at 22:46
These are some of the more difficult UK based photos from the collection of my late father, Flt.Lt. Thomas Barker. BEM. which I am trying to identify. If you are interested in Fairey Albacores and their deployment in Malta, RAF secondment to the Fleet Air Arm, the Malta blitz or service life seen from a different angle and a bit more background information, then please take a look at the following :
Fleet Air Arm 828 Squadron (TSR) HalFar, Malta
Surrender of the Italian Fleet, Malta
Back to these photos and the UK.
RAF01.JPG This is TB at Manston 1936. Thought you would like to see it for future ID of the hangar elevation - have not yet identified the aircraft though.
RAF02.JPG TB can be seen bottom right in this aircraft, wearing an unusual or old-style cap?. Can you ID the aircraft? Is it a Heyford or Hendon bomber?
RAF03.JPG I believe these are Westland Wallace Aircraft (Target Towing Box Under), is it RAF Mildenhall? His service record puts him with 38 sqn. at Mildenhall 02.04.37
RAF04.JPG, RAF08.JPG, RAF05.JPG. These are really puzzling. The nearest serial no. can be read as K3266 (enlarged in RAF05.JPG) which I believe is an Avro Tutor. They all seem to have the cockpits and engine cowls covered with tarpaulins. Also unidentified aircraft at the far end of the line, but where is this? Bell-tents are just visible on the left behind the aircraft and the top of an unusual shaped building centre. Possibly the same bell-tents as in RAF08.JPG. I do recall TB mentioning to me that when he was first at RAF Marham (when 38 Sqn moved in May 1937) that they lived in bell-tents. This does not however seem to match with a field of Avro Tutors! Any suggestions welcome.
RAF06.JPG Definitely at RAF North Luffenham. TB had security authorisation to examine British and allied aircraft. Is anyone able to suggest the aircraft with its bubble open? Inscription on photo reads 'North Luffenham G1165 HGCU 04.10.44'
RAF07.JPG This one is a mystery all round!
Any comments are most welcome. Some more to follow when time permits!