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By: - 9th June 2020 at 20:27 Permalink
Your aircraft ID looks right, it is not G-ABCI as there is a Photo in A.J. Jacksons British civil aircraft book. What is the connection with the photo? Any idea who the people are and where it might have been taken. That might help tracing it through the previous registered owners? BOJ was owned by owners in Coventry and Birmingham.
By: - 9th June 2020 at 23:00 Permalink
I was going to suggest it could be an AVRO Avian Monoplane but there are no bracing wires to the wings.
By: - 12th June 2020 at 13:36 Permalink - Edited 12th June 2020 at 13:38
By: Barnyard_Jud - 9th June 2020 at 19:56It has been suggested it may be G-ABOJ, but that is based on my assumption that it was registered in GB, and it’s first reg letter is then A.
Other than this, is there anything to suggest that subject of the photograph is a British registered civil aircraft? Otherwise it could just as easily be a French or Italian registered civil aircraft, both countries having used a single letter country code followed by the letter A (i.e. F-A### and I-A###) for light aircraft in the 1930s.
By: - 12th June 2020 at 20:27 Permalink - Edited 12th June 2020 at 20:28
I've darkened the photo down a bit and it looks like a B is the next letter of the registration after the A. However, I agree with Avion Ancien and it could very well be a French or Italian aircraft. I wouldn't discount the Klemm L27 either. Hopefully, the OP can give us some background info on the photo.
By: - 13th June 2020 at 11:52 Permalink - Edited 25th June 2020 at 08:16
With a spare 30 minutes I took my own advice and made a search.
I think the aircraft could be Klemm L26 AX, G-ABRP. The gentleman with the moustache is I believe Alexander Kinloch , born New York 6 June 1907, but a British citizen. He was a one stage a 'broker' and gained his RAC certificate # 11270 on 26 July 1933.
Later inherited family title and knighted - Sir Alexander David Davenport Kinloch, 12th Baronet of Gilmerton. He died in 1982. Aircraft listed as being normally based at Heston.
Further to the above. I think the lady wearing the scarf (sat on the fuselage) to be the wife of Alexander; Alexandra Kinloch. She also held a RAC certificate (# 11269).
By: - 13th June 2020 at 12:04 Permalink - Edited 13th June 2020 at 12:04
By: Mothminor - 12th June 2020 at 20:27I've darkened the photo down a bit and it looks like a B is the next letter of the registration after the A. However, I agree with Avion Ancien and it could very well be a French or Italian aircraft. I wouldn't discount the Klemm L27 either. Hopefully, the OP can give us some background info on the photo.
At first I thought, MM, that you had some wonderful piece of software that enabled you to see through the lady's skirt and the gent's trousers. Then I looked at your attachment and realised that you were talking about the registration mark on the upper surface of the starboard wing!
By: - 13th June 2020 at 13:23 Permalink
Now that would be useful, AA! 😂
By: - 16th June 2020 at 22:37 Permalink
More correctly, wasn’t the surname ‘Kinloch’? The same wealthy young man who financed the short lived Surrey Borders And Camberley Railway.
By: - 17th June 2020 at 08:56 Permalink
By: Chitts - 16th June 2020 at 22:37More correctly, wasn’t the surname ‘Kinloch’? The same wealthy young man who financed the short lived Surrey Borders And Camberley Railway.
Not many people on an aviation forum will know about that (so see http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=6004.0)
By: - 17th June 2020 at 10:25 Permalink
I've never heard of that railway before. Looks a nice little line. Pity it was so short-lived.
There's a short video of it on Youtube -
By: - 28th December 2021 at 20:13 Permalink
I was not actually interested in becoming a member of key.aero, but in researching my father's flying log books and planes I came across this forum sequence, and if it is not too late am able to give you some confirmatory information. My father, Captain J C Hargreaves (1900-1990), owned the Klemm G-ABRP from 10/1931 to 4/1935 when there is an entry in the log book '06.04.35. "Sold RP to A. Kinloch” '.
Benjamin Hargreaves
By: - 28th December 2021 at 22:12 Permalink
Never too late to add something new, thanks.
By: - 29th December 2021 at 10:08 Permalink
Is there any indication concerning for what 'RP' stood?
By: - 29th December 2021 at 10:45 Permalink
AA. I would suspect that ‘RP’ was simply the next in-sequence registration.
By: - 29th December 2021 at 11:17 Permalink
I suspect it's simply just an abbreviation for G-ABRP - 'RP.
By: - 29th December 2021 at 12:21 Permalink
I think that dhfan has it. Blindingly simple - which probably is why it did not occur to me! 😏
By: - 22nd May 2023 at 20:59 Permalink
I have a photo that may well be this plane. I have confirmed with the Kinloch family that it was their father's plane. I need to know who the man in my photo is. I've been researching this for 25 years for my mother.
Please get in touch ASAP we can discuss further.
PS, Was this posted on facebook recently?
By: - 27th May 2023 at 13:21 Permalink
EllaM. If you want an answer then will need to supply some context to your question?
What is the origin of the photo - where and when? What is your mother’s interest? Is there a specific location or area that is involved? Is there a family interest? If so, a surname or names of interest?
By: - 20th September 2023 at 06:02 Permalink
I've never heard of that railway before. Looks a nice little line. Pity it was so short-lived.
There's a short video of it on Youtube -
Where I can find the longer video.
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By: Barnyard_Jud - 9th June 2020 at 19:56
Hello - I have been trying to identify the plane in this photo. Somebody suggested I post it here and see what you all think. The best guess of the collective mind elsewhere is a Klemm L26 AIII. It has been suggested it may be G-ABOJ, but that is based on my assumption that it was registered in GB, and it’s first reg letter is then A. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thank you all.