By: 35 AoA
- 10th May 2011 at 05:45Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
You mean E-2?
Yes, was speaking to the E-2C......Grumman makes good airplanes, but many of my friends who fly it don't have the greatest things to say about it these days. That being from a piloting standpoint, rather than a systems capability perspective
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By: i.e.
- 10th May 2011 at 06:40Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, was speaking to the E-2C......Grumman makes good airplanes, but many of my friends who fly it don't have the greatest things to say about it these days. That being from a piloting standpoint, rather than a systems capability perspective
Grumman used to make good airplanes. :)
And carrier planes such as these, HQ typically gets squeezed out from every which way.
By: 35 AoA
- 10th May 2011 at 17:07Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Grumman used to make good airplanes. :)
And carrier planes such as these, HQ typically gets squeezed out from every which way.
True, and we don't have nearly the budget of the AF, or at least after all the other non-aviation assets in the USN inventory are addressed. I just find it humorous that they would copy such a dated design.
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By: i.e.
- 11th May 2011 at 05:12Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
True, and we don't have nearly the budget of the AF, or at least after all the other non-aviation assets in the USN inventory are addressed. I just find it humorous that they would copy such a dated design.
I am not sure it is a copy. They didn't have a E-2 and even if the configuration looks same you may find a lot of details coming from Y-7/An-24 than a E-2.
May be the reason they went for a turbo-prop solution is in engines after all.
They do have a working reliable 5000 hp Turboprop. They don't have a good working CF34 class high by-pass-turbofan.
By: Buitreaux
- 12th May 2011 at 09:49Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thank you for the clarification Flateric. I wasn't sure, hence I wrote suppossed on my post. It is clear that it is an E2 then, yet that chinese mistery plane is quite similar.
By: Buitreaux
- 12th May 2011 at 15:33Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh man, those chinos are clonning everything. You're right flateric, it is deffinetely a chinese model, or at least a yankee model inside a chinese wind tunnel! That last seccion with a single window to the bottom left makes the diagnostic.
It will be very weird to see the actual plane once more photos are available, and even weirder to see them from a chinese CATOBAR.
By: Mildave
- 12th May 2011 at 15:47Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is no point reinventing what's already working. To master it is the true challenge...
One thing is sure, the US isn't going to like to see these thing flying since it's thank to AWACs platform they have such advantage over most potential enemies.
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By: i.e.
- 14th May 2011 at 18:35Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I must apologize. This is me living in other universe, and Alert5 guys living in right one. Sorry.
compare tunnel interior to that that we've definitely seen before in connection to other Chinese projects
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Yeah looks like that old NF-3 lowspeed tunnel in Mianyang in Sichuan Province.
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By: i.e.
- 14th May 2011 at 18:40Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
just for fun. :D
oh no those Chinos are cloning f-16s!
;)
relax it is just some foreign technology analysis work.
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By: Iranian F-14A - 9th May 2011 at 02:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Maybe Proposed would have been a better word...
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By: ppp - 9th May 2011 at 11:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If the Chinese want some cats it would be fairly easy for them to design and produce an EMCAT. They have lots of experts in electromagnetics.
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By: 35 AoA - 10th May 2011 at 05:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, was speaking to the E-2C......Grumman makes good airplanes, but many of my friends who fly it don't have the greatest things to say about it these days. That being from a piloting standpoint, rather than a systems capability perspective
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By: i.e. - 10th May 2011 at 06:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Grumman used to make good airplanes. :)
And carrier planes such as these, HQ typically gets squeezed out from every which way.
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By: Buitreaux - 10th May 2011 at 11:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Same image, but in link for for those who can't see it: http://alert5.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/110507214622b94fee7ea47b901.jpg
This is the suppossed wind tunnel model of the "chinese Hawkeye".
I guess they are going for some CATOBAR CVs after the STOBAR.
This is the suppossed wind tunnel model of the "chinese Hawkeye".
I guess they are going for some CATOBAR CVs after the STOBAR.
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By: 35 AoA - 10th May 2011 at 17:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
True, and we don't have nearly the budget of the AF, or at least after all the other non-aviation assets in the USN inventory are addressed. I just find it humorous that they would copy such a dated design.
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By: i.e. - 11th May 2011 at 05:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I am not sure it is a copy. They didn't have a E-2 and even if the configuration looks same you may find a lot of details coming from Y-7/An-24 than a E-2.
May be the reason they went for a turbo-prop solution is in engines after all.
They do have a working reliable 5000 hp Turboprop. They don't have a good working CF34 class high by-pass-turbofan.
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By: starikki - 11th May 2011 at 12:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
you mean this one?
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By: matt - 11th May 2011 at 20:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I like the plane it looks interesting and kind of new, what type of engines will this thing have? Are they turboprops?
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By: Sens - 11th May 2011 at 21:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Of cause. ;)
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By: flateric - 12th May 2011 at 09:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Of course. In this universe, this is E-2D WT model in BLR Aerospace wind tunnel.
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By: Buitreaux - 12th May 2011 at 09:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thank you for the clarification Flateric. I wasn't sure, hence I wrote suppossed on my post. It is clear that it is an E2 then, yet that chinese mistery plane is quite similar.
Here is the link from where I got the picture: http://alert5.com/2011/05/09/photo-wind-tunnel-model-of-chinese-hawkeye/
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By: flateric - 12th May 2011 at 10:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I must apologize. This is me living in other universe, and Alert5 guys living in right one. Sorry.
compare tunnel interior to that that we've definitely seen before in connection to other Chinese projects
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By: Buitreaux - 12th May 2011 at 15:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh man, those chinos are clonning everything. You're right flateric, it is deffinetely a chinese model, or at least a yankee model inside a chinese wind tunnel! That last seccion with a single window to the bottom left makes the diagnostic.
It will be very weird to see the actual plane once more photos are available, and even weirder to see them from a chinese CATOBAR.
Saludos Flateric.
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By: Mildave - 12th May 2011 at 15:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is no point reinventing what's already working. To master it is the true challenge...
One thing is sure, the US isn't going to like to see these thing flying since it's thank to AWACs platform they have such advantage over most potential enemies.
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By: i.e. - 14th May 2011 at 18:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yeah looks like that old NF-3 lowspeed tunnel in Mianyang in Sichuan Province.
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By: i.e. - 14th May 2011 at 18:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
just for fun. :D
oh no those Chinos are cloning f-16s!
;)
relax it is just some foreign technology analysis work.
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By: Buitreaux - 6th June 2011 at 22:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
More pics of the chinese AEW&C, similar to the E2 Hawkeye:
and a fan render:
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By: Nils - 7th June 2011 at 17:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
looks more like a shrunken version of the Yak-44E with a 6-bladed prop :rolleyes:
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By: Buitreaux - 31st January 2017 at 13:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
5.5 year bump!
What do we make of this?
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Is there a turboprop AEW&C design in the works?