By: obligatory
- 25th May 2012 at 13:27Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The infamous DSI & more composites replacing metal, & other details,
otherwise i'm dead certain that the new model is not the major redesign the SwAF wanted by 2025-30, (prototype)
they got this model as to coincide with Swiss AF etc.
By: Loke
- 25th May 2012 at 19:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Loke's translation:
Right now a new test plane is being prepared, which, according to Buskhe, is one ton lighter, will have a new engine, new flight control system and new avionics.
By: TooCool_12f
- 27th May 2012 at 16:39Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
damn! I knew I should've applied for the secret services... :D
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By: obligatory
- 1st June 2012 at 14:08Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sweden's Saab Invests In Brazil's Aerospace Defence Industry
(Source: Bernama; published May 30, 2012)
RIO DE JANEIRO --- Sweden's premier defense and security company - Saab - is strengthening its relationship with a Brazilian company involved in aero-structures.
Saab, manufacturer of the Gripen jet fighter that has partnered in the past with the company Akaer, said it is now financially investing in the company, local media reported.The Gripen fighter jet flown by six countries and Saab wants to add Brazil to its list.
The investment is equivalent to a 15% stake in Akaer, whose advisory board will now include the Swedish company......
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By: CoffeeBean
- 2nd June 2012 at 01:53Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The infamous DSI & more composites replacing metal, & other details,
otherwise i'm dead certain that the new model is not the major redesign the SwAF wanted by 2025-30, (prototype)
they got this model as to coincide with Swiss AF etc.
Any CGI or model pics available of the Gripen NG with the infamous DSI and other mods ?
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By: obligatory
- 2nd June 2012 at 01:58Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, i havnt seen a single pic unfortunately,
but the first flight is expected this summer, so the roll-out should be imminent :D
By: Spitfire9
- 2nd June 2012 at 10:09Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Any CGI or model pics available of the Gripen NG with the infamous DSI and other mods ?
2 questions, please:
What is DSI?
Why is it infamous?
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By: obligatory
- 2nd June 2012 at 10:30Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
1] Diverterless Supersonic Inlet
2] You were fortunate to miss out on JSLLL4/ aka Ocean Boy/ aka PhilTheBelowed/ aka Thornado/ aka God knows what, arguments that
JF-17 is the next best thing since Ancher beer because of......--> yep, DSI
By: Spitfire9
- 3rd June 2012 at 19:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
1] Diverterless Supersonic Inlet
2] You were fortunate to miss out on JSLLL4/ aka Ocean Boy/ aka PhilTheBelowed/ aka Thornado/ aka God knows what, arguments that
JF-17 is the next best thing since Ancher beer because of......--> yep, DSI
Thanks. Had a look at the JF-17 thread you mention. Trying read indeed.
By: kirtap
- 4th June 2012 at 06:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is DSI confirmed?
All I've seen is a Bill Sweetman (which probably makes it true -- he has a good track record) mention it in an article.
(A part from a SAAB mockup, which has a lot of structural changes from Gripen apart from DSI to for e.x. the canards and wing - much more changes than what has been proposed for Gripen E/F - unlikely to represent how the the E/F will look)
By: Loke
- 4th June 2012 at 19:30Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
GMT, June 4, 2012 Brigadier General Jiri Verner, commander of the Air Force of the Czech Republic outlined how he was able to achieve a great deal for a small country following reorganization of the ex-Eastern Bloc air arm into a leaner force equipped with modern fighter aircraft, numerous helicopters mostly used for army support and a small transport fleet.
Key to Czech air defence is the fleet of 14 JAS 39 Gripen fighters, backed-up by 24 Czech-built L-159 ALCA advanced light combat aircraft. The Gripens are used exclusively for air defence while the ALCAs also do ground attack, forward air control (FAC) training and conversion training.
“It is a big mistake of some of our politicians and decision makers to call the L-159 a better L-39. I say it is more of a worse F-16,” said BGen Verner. With many common systems, the L-159 to Gripen conversion is “short and cheap and easy” he added.
A highlight of recent Czech air operations was undertaking the Baltic Air Policing mission from Siauliai air base in Lithuania in 2009. In addition to maintaining quick reaction alert at home, the Czech AF supplied four Gripens, supported by 75 personnel. The four-month rotation cost €1.6 million and saw eight real life intercepts of uncommunicative aircraft. Showing a slide of a Russian Air Force Il-38 ‘May’ ELINT aircraft shadowed by a Gripen, Brig Gen Verner described “The Aerof lot aircraft with special antennas, looking like a hedgehog”.
The Gripens were followed by a Luftwaffe Typhoon detachment with 200 personnel. “Only the Turks had more,” Verner added.
The Czech AF will return in August 2012 for another air policing stint.
The Czech AF is particularly proud of the Silver Tiger award won at the first NATO Tiger Meet exercise they attended with the Gripen in 2009.
“I consider that the trophy means we are fully accepted as a NATO member and I would love to keep that going after 2015 [when the current Gripen lease agreement is due to expire] and that our politicians make an excellent decision for the future.”
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By: obligatory - 25th May 2012 at 13:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The infamous DSI & more composites replacing metal, & other details,
otherwise i'm dead certain that the new model is not the major redesign the SwAF wanted by 2025-30, (prototype)
they got this model as to coincide with Swiss AF etc.
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By: Loke - 25th May 2012 at 19:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Loke's translation:
Google translate:
http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.svd.se%2Fnaringsliv%2Fbranscher%2Findustri-och-fordon%2Fsmutsigt-spel-kring-gripen-affaren_7227541.svd
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By: LowObservable - 27th May 2012 at 15:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Quite the story there, Loke.
So for anyone in the vicinity of Linkoping, here is what a French spy might look like. Be alert!
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By: TooCool_12f - 27th May 2012 at 16:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
damn! I knew I should've applied for the secret services... :D
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By: obligatory - 1st June 2012 at 14:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/135557/saab-invests-in-brazil%27s-aerospace-defence-industry.html
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By: TooCool_12f - 1st June 2012 at 17:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
er, I have an impression of "deja-vu"
didn't they already say that some six months ago? (SAAB & Akaer getting closer, etc... )
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By: obligatory - 1st June 2012 at 17:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This is step 2:
strengthening
15% stake
advisory board will now include the Swedish company
in other words fusing
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By: CoffeeBean - 2nd June 2012 at 01:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Any CGI or model pics available of the Gripen NG with the infamous DSI and other mods ?
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By: obligatory - 2nd June 2012 at 01:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, i havnt seen a single pic unfortunately,
but the first flight is expected this summer, so the roll-out should be imminent :D
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By: Spitfire9 - 2nd June 2012 at 10:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
2 questions, please:
What is DSI?
Why is it infamous?
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By: obligatory - 2nd June 2012 at 10:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
1] Diverterless Supersonic Inlet
2] You were fortunate to miss out on JSLLL4/ aka Ocean Boy/ aka PhilTheBelowed/ aka Thornado/ aka God knows what, arguments that
JF-17 is the next best thing since Ancher beer because of......--> yep, DSI
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By: Spitfire9 - 3rd June 2012 at 19:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks. Had a look at the JF-17 thread you mention. Trying read indeed.
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By: kirtap - 4th June 2012 at 06:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is DSI confirmed?
All I've seen is a Bill Sweetman (which probably makes it true -- he has a good track record) mention it in an article.
(A part from a SAAB mockup, which has a lot of structural changes from Gripen apart from DSI to for e.x. the canards and wing - much more changes than what has been proposed for Gripen E/F - unlikely to represent how the the E/F will look)
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By: kirtap - 4th June 2012 at 12:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Volvo Aero exhibitition shows pciture of Flygsystem 20205 / FS2025 nose radome.
Picture shamelessly stolen from lander from mp.net
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By: obligatory - 4th June 2012 at 13:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I already knew that trick, just wish @signatory is coming back.
Here is Skyward-G IRST
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By: kirtap - 4th June 2012 at 13:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I wonder where signtory went :( Hope it is not health related.
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By: Sintra - 4th June 2012 at 13:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
X2
He completely disapeared. He was THE SAAB Gripen reference source on open forúns, i´ve seen him quoted in French and Portuguese.
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By: obligatory - 4th June 2012 at 14:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I fear the worst in this respect, sadly.
A massive interest doesn't just end like that.
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By: Loke - 4th June 2012 at 19:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/36061/?SID=85f08f2c0e53b11ceded4b6cadb36574
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By: MSphere - 4th June 2012 at 20:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Last post of him recorded on 1st July 2011