By: PEB75
- 2nd May 2019 at 10:17Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Kwantung (Japanese) Police roundel, circa 1933
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One Tiger Moth (DH-82) and one Fox Moth (DH-83):
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By: Gerard
- 6th May 2019 at 10:02Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
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Kingdom of Yemen. 1919 - 1962.
Nice helicopter from Yemen! According to ACIG (see here http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/v/183/249/0#1), this is indeed a Mil Mi-4 helicopter from North Yemen in the late 1960s.
By: Gerard
- 10th May 2019 at 10:18Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
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Martinsyde Type A mark II with 1922-1923 roundel on the wing and flag on the fuselage and as finflash. The roundel was also under the wings.
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Miles Magistar with the flag "roundel" used from 1923-1939
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from 1939 -1954 the 2 colored roundel was used on the wings and the fuselage but the flag roundel remained under the wing
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from 1954 to the present day the tricolored roundel is used on the common 6 positions.
By: PEB75
- 12th May 2019 at 16:56Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Super finding, Gerard!
Nevertheless, the first aircraft (two first pictures) is a Martinsyde A.Mk II. Here it is, with its cabin for a passenger, as seen on the phone card (!) below:
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By: Gerard
- 18th May 2019 at 19:44Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
a fantasy roundel today. ;) [ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":3862724}[/ATTACH][ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":3862726}[/ATTACH]
By: Gerard
- 19th May 2019 at 21:53Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
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Angola, Weird roundel, new or fantasy
What a coincidence I finished to build this very model of French Twin Otter from the MFO in Sinai during 1989 in 1/72 scale last week! And I was looking for a photograph showing this roundel, which was not used for long (the same aircraft with the standard French roundel can be found on the Wikipedia page dedicated to Twin Otter).
You say it was painted by Canadians from Québec, do you have a reference for this story?
A rare catch: This French Air Force DHC-6 was decked out to Québec roundel applied by Canadian Multinational Force and Observers staff in Sinai for a joke. This imaginary roundel stayed in place half a day only and the aircraft never flew with it.
By: Gerard
- 6th June 2019 at 09:23Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Yes i know, but there where more
On the P1127 kestrel;
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On the Tornado there were 3 different depending on the country the aircraft belonged; from left to right. UK, Germany, Italy
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And last but not least the Typhoon
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By: Gerard
- 12th June 2019 at 10:33Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
US Special D-Day roundels
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By: Gerard
- 12th June 2019 at 10:46Permalink- Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
[ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"medium","data-attachmentid":3865078}[/ATTACH] Mauritania made a small change to there roundel and finflash/flag. It now has a red outline (since 2018)
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By: PEB75 - 2nd May 2019 at 10:17 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Kwantung (Japanese) Police roundel, circa 1933
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One Tiger Moth (DH-82) and one Fox Moth (DH-83):
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By: Gerard - 6th May 2019 at 10:02 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
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Kingdom of Yemen. 1919 - 1962.
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By: PEB75 - 10th May 2019 at 09:41 Permalink
Nice helicopter from Yemen! According to ACIG (see here http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/v/183/249/0#1), this is indeed a Mil Mi-4 helicopter from North Yemen in the late 1960s.
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By: PEB75 - 10th May 2019 at 09:46 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Early Irish roundel
As far as I know, Ireland used three types of roundels (including the stripes):
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According to some sources, early Irish aircraft also used another roundel, but I never saw any photograph:
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Any hint?
PEB
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By: Gerard - 10th May 2019 at 10:18 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
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Martinsyde Type A mark II with 1922-1923 roundel on the wing and flag on the fuselage and as finflash. The roundel was also under the wings.
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Miles Magistar with the flag "roundel" used from 1923-1939
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from 1939 -1954 the 2 colored roundel was used on the wings and the fuselage but the flag roundel remained under the wing
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from 1954 to the present day the tricolored roundel is used on the common 6 positions.
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By: PEB75 - 12th May 2019 at 16:56 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Super finding, Gerard!
Nevertheless, the first aircraft (two first pictures) is a Martinsyde A.Mk II. Here it is, with its cabin for a passenger, as seen on the phone card (!) below:
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Indeed, this is a Bristol F2B fighter.
Very great finding, though!!!
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By: Gerard - 12th May 2019 at 17:11 Permalink
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By: PEB75 - 12th May 2019 at 17:30 Permalink
Yes !
:eagerness:
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By: Gerard - 18th May 2019 at 19:44 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
a fantasy roundel today. ;) [ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":3862724}[/ATTACH][ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":3862726}[/ATTACH]
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By: Gerard - 19th May 2019 at 21:53 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
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Angola, Weird roundel, new or fantasy
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By: Gerard - 21st May 2019 at 10:13 Permalink
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Found another one today so it must be a new roundel.
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By: Gerard - 28th May 2019 at 21:39 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Zapped MFO (French air force) DHC-6. Done by Canadians from Quebec. A Quebec emblem over the French roundel.. MFO emblem on the nose
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By: PEB75 - 30th May 2019 at 16:37 Permalink
Hi Gerard,
What a coincidence I finished to build this very model of French Twin Otter from the MFO in Sinai during 1989 in 1/72 scale last week! And I was looking for a photograph showing this roundel, which was not used for long (the same aircraft with the standard French roundel can be found on the Wikipedia page dedicated to Twin Otter).
You say it was painted by Canadians from Québec, do you have a reference for this story?
Thanks!
PEB
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By: Gerard - 30th May 2019 at 16:52 Permalink
Good question PEB.
Found it on FB:
Gerard
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By: PEB75 - 30th May 2019 at 18:09 Permalink
Thanks!
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By: Gerard - 4th June 2019 at 09:31 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
The roundel used on the mock-up of the NH-90
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By: Dr.Snufflebug - 5th June 2019 at 18:26 Permalink
Reminds me of the EF2000 prototype.
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By: Gerard - 6th June 2019 at 09:23 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
Yes i know, but there where more
On the P1127 kestrel;
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On the Tornado there were 3 different depending on the country the aircraft belonged; from left to right. UK, Germany, Italy
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And last but not least the Typhoon
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By: Gerard - 12th June 2019 at 10:33 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
US Special D-Day roundels
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By: Gerard - 12th June 2019 at 10:46 Permalink - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 14:50
[ATTACH=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"medium","data-attachmentid":3865078}[/ATTACH] Mauritania made a small change to there roundel and finflash/flag. It now has a red outline (since 2018)
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