RuAF News and Development Thread part 11

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[QUOTE=a89;1973619]There are no plans to acquire MiG-29 so far. I thought those SMT rejected by Algeria were a good option for many countries, as RSK MiG could not afford to have another scandal. By the way, I did not know about the 250 million $ deposit.

I don't understand what you are trying to say, how can Peru have no plans to acquire them when they have already been delivered????

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Interesting but seems a bit optimistic:

- Indian Navy - yes, very probable if carrier plans proceed. Remember though that Rafale also comes in carrier capable version.

More Mig-29k would only be possible if (1) IAC 2 turns out to be STOBAR - which is highly unlikely. IN seems to be set for going in for CATOBAR.

or if (2) N-LCA fails to materialize.

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How many Ka 52 were manufactured in 2012 or delivered to Russian VVS in 2012? How many $ is the Russian VVS paying for a single Ka 52, around $16 million per unit?

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A new year, a new Mi-26T....

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Do we have any specs on the newly build Mi-26?
Have they manage to reduce empty weight by using lighter airframe materials?

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Well, this one has nothing to do with RuAF or Russian MoD.

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Mi-26T is for the civilian and export market, right? The latest batch for the Russian VVS doesn't seem to be a later model such as the Mi-26M (was it ever build?) but I can't believe that they get the same model that entered service now 30 years ago.

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Have they manage to reduce empty weight by using lighter airframe materials?

Yes because Mi-26 is well known for being underpowered. :rolleyes:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xdmwp0RvGag/TVIec5EmzZI/AAAAAAAABts/war1x3vaPGk/s1600/M-26+C%25C3%2582U+T-134.jpg

No big changes are done as far as i know. Normal production evolution i guess, but nothing beyond that.

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Its avionics were updated and even at 30 years old the Mi 26 is still way better than anything the west or US has and Mi 26 is the leader in its class by a wide margin still.
Also how many Ka 52 were manufactured in 2012 or delivered to Russian VVS in 2012? How many $ is the Russian VVS paying for a single Ka 52, around $16 million per unit?

Mi-26T is for the civilian and export market, right? The latest batch for the Russian VVS doesn't seem to be a later model such as the Mi-26M (was it ever build?) but I can't believe that they get the same model that entered service now 30 years ago.

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Nobody is comparing the Mi-26 to a Western design. I just find it odd that -apparently- the 30-year-old model was ordered instead of a more modern version with more modern avionics etc., Mi-26A, Mi-26M or whatever.

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What??
I imagine the new build Mi-26 has something of a glass cockpit, atleast?

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Nobody is comparing the Mi-26 to a Western design. I just find it odd that -apparently- the 30-year-old model was ordered instead of a more modern version with more modern avionics etc., Mi-26A, Mi-26M or whatever.

Does the job + price + speed of delivery.

Don't worry, MOD will order Mi-26T2 variant after 2013 as well.

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Ka 52

So nobody on this forum knows answers to my questions on Ka 52???

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Nobody is comparing the Mi-26 to a Western design. I just find it odd that -apparently- the 30-year-old model was ordered instead of a more modern version with more modern avionics etc., Mi-26A, Mi-26M or whatever.

The Mi-26T has one function - go to A, lift the cargo, deliver to B, drop. Exactly what avionics do you really need for that?

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So nobody on this forum knows answers to my questions on Ka 52???
Ka-52 costs around 30% more than Mi-28N - something over 800 million RUB

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What??
I imagine the new build Mi-26 has something of a glass cockpit, atleast?

No of course.

Good question about Ka-52's, on top of my head i can only recall seeing one this year. (new that is)

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Ka 52

Isn't the current production rate of Ka 52 somewhere from 10-12 per year based on production figures from 2011? Where are all those Ka 52 made in 2012,haven't been much news or pictures of them unlike the very well documented Su 34 deliveries?

No of course.

Good question about Ka-52's, on top of my head i can only recall seeing one this year. (new that is)

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Whats the $ unit cost amount for both the Ka52 and Mi28N?
Is there any plans to put radar on top of rotor on future serial produced Mi28N?

Ka-52 costs around 30% more than Mi-28N - something over 800 million RUB

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Whats the $ unit cost amount for both the Ka52 and Mi28N?
Is there any plans to put radar on top of rotor on future serial produced Mi28N?

Ka-52 around $27-28mil, Mi-28N around $20mil (I suspect without radar).
AFAIK, the radar works but suffers from poor MTBF due to excessive vibrations.

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Supposedly they have made progress on the radar mast for the Mi-28N.
Not sure if we will see it before the Mi-28NM though.