RuAF News and Development Thread part 11

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Well, something that will probably hearten Berkut. AF commander Shoigu does not like gray on RuAF aircraft, so he wants them cammoed again (according to the specifics of their basing and operation, he says). :)
http://izvestia.ru/news/542205

Does anyone with good contacts/insight into the RuAF community know what do the pilots thought of the grey cammo ?

Speaking of Soyuz's post that looks like a mother of a deal for the russian aviation industry.

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Yup, i was mildly happy to see Mr.White Horse Rider Shoigu to come and save everyone from the evil tyranny of Serdukov.

RIP Sh!t stain color :(, will deeply miss you.

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Roscosmos will get -- 3 Tu-214's, and 3 SSJ's.

So they can retire the Tu-134's, that's good news. :) Can't wait for an SSJ in Roscosmos livery. Will definitely look good over at Vostochny too, which by the looks of things will be a modern wonder compared to the facilities at Baikonur.

Well, something that will probably hearten Berkut. AF commander Shoigu does not like gray on RuAF aircraft, so he wants them cammoed again (according to the specifics of their basing and operation, he says). :)
http://izvestia.ru/news/542205

Does anyone with good contacts/insight into the RuAF community know what do the pilots thought of the grey cammo ?

Speaking of Soyuz's post that looks like a mother of a deal for the russian aviation industry.

You don't go tuff-tuff in your MiG-3 within an <80km wide circle anymore... Are they going to haphazardly splash a buncha buckets of white paint on the machines when Gidrometcenter announces skiing times ahead too? I mean, sure I understand when something just flat out doesn't work (the Su-25 and -34 would seem to me as an example of that) but we're talking multirole, long-range, high speed and high flying aircraft here. The "grey ghost" they speak so condescendingly of sure is a compromise, but it is by no means a dumb one.

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The MoD will get -- 39 An-148's, 2 Tu-214's, 11 Tu-204SM's.

The Presidential administration, which is charged with ferrying about VIP's will get -- 6 An-148's, 6 Tu-214's, 8 Il-96-300's, and 1 Tu-204-300.

The FSB will get -- 4 An-148's, 2 Tu-214's, 1 Il-476, and 2 Tu-204-300's.

The MVD will get -- 6 An-148's 2 Tu-204SM's, and 2 SSJ's.

The Ministry of Emergencies (commie FEMA) will get -- 2 An-148's, 4 Il-476's and 1 Tu-204-300.

Roscosmos will get -- 3 Tu-214's, and 3 SSJ's.

Thats indeed good , they are planning to buy the newer Tu-204SM and SSJ plus additional aircraft of various class will really give the push to civilian aircraft industry.

8 x IL-96PU isnt that a big number to have just to ferry the president or does the PM , DM and other VVIPS use the IL-96PU ?

AFAIK the Presidential Administration has 3 x IL-96PU and 2 more under order plus 3 additional to be ordered to complete a fleet of 8 IL-96-300 ?

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Source is Izvestya.....

Doesn't it seem suspiciously big considering the similar sized An-140 orders from recently?

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Order mix may change. but it is part of state support to create economies of scale.
http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/russia-s-ministries-order-130-aircraft-uac-1217
Russia’s ministries to order 130 aircraft from UAC
According to Vedomosti, the Ministry of Defense will be the main customer, as it will decommission 80 civil aircraft through 2018.

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So how many serial Su-34s have really been produced? I have pictures of aircrafts with red port numbers: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,20,21,22 and if we do count the grey #5 as a separate aircraft, that is 16 different aircrafts. According to the information that I have, in 2010 was deliverd 4 aircrafts, 2011 6 and 2012 5(with another 5 to be delivered in January 2013). So do anyone have port numbers and/or pictures of any additional serial production Su-34s? And is there any information on how many we should expect for 2013(if we don't count the january jets)?

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So how many serial Su-34s have really been produced? I have pictures of aircrafts with red port numbers: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,20,21,22 and if we do count the grey #5 as a separate aircraft, that is 16 different aircrafts. According to the information that I have, in 2010 was deliverd 4 aircrafts, 2011 6 and 2012 5(with another 5 to be delivered in January 2013). So do anyone have port numbers and/or pictures of any additional serial production Su-34s? And is there any information on how many we should expect for 2013(if we don't count the january jets)?

Clue, there is several duplicates in terms of bort number, doesnt mean they are same plane. Look more closely.

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Bellum,
There are two each of 01, 02, 03, 04, 05 red!
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One thing I noticed about the new 'Hellduck' Su-34 bort numbers is the style of the numeral 1.

On all other Russian aircraft I have seen, the numeral 1 (one) is just a
straight bar.

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2012_files/day1_020.JPG

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2012_files/day1_022.JPG

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2011_files/day1_011.JPG

On the new camo'ed Su-34's the numeral 1 has a 'hook' at the top.

I had to make my model as bort 05 - because nowhere in my collection of Russian bort number decals did I have any in the new style to make bort 10......

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/modl_flanker_files/flank_61.JPG

Any photos of other Russian types with the 'hooked' number one ???

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Bellum,
There are two each of 01, 02, 03, 04, 05 red!
Andy

Can somebody pls produce some pics to illustrate this, don't think i've seen all those of each..

And where are they all based, Voronezh?

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Can somebody pls produce some pics to illustrate this, don't think i've seen all those of each..

And where are they all based, Voronezh?

You are free as always to do research yourself? Look, this took me a whooping 30 seconds:

02: http://russianplanes.net/id93827

And 02: http://russianplanes.net/id92823

05: http://russianplanes.net/id63040

05: http://russianplanes.net/id93331

On the rest you are free too do research yourself.

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Bellum,
There are two each of 01, 02, 03, 04, 05 red!
Andy

Thank you very much for the information! I appreciate the help.

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Quick question: when were the Su-34s fitted with wing fences? Were they suffering from uncommanded roll in certain part of the flight regime (most likely transonic?)

Any clue will be appreciated.

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Anybody know the latest on the delivery date for the SU-35S to the airforce. Remember reading early December in one article. Then late December in a later article. Update on this schedule.

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One thing I noticed about the new 'Hellduck' Su-34 bort numbers is the style of the numeral 1.

Any photos of other Russian types with the 'hooked' number one ???

Ken

just curious, why are the greys so inconsistent, the type used for the helicopters, transports are different and the ones on the fighters and yak-130 are also different even between them.

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Any clue will be appreciated.

Result of "the big sticks" at the ends of the wings.

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Would be interesting to see which borts it will be considering S-2, S-3 and S-4 has GLITs markings. Then again that doesn't mean those will fly over to Lipetsk, but might just continue be based in Akhtu.

I think we will see plenty of pics from Lipetsk soon enough Mack8. :)