By: Twinblade
- 8th January 2013 at 13:17Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sigh.. Can't they just let the Algerians or Indians paint all RuAF flankers (yes all of them, regardles of what numerical or alfabetical suffix they may have) and then be over and done with all these endless glossy LSD-patterns once and for all??
FFS, how hard could it be? :confused: Cant take much more now... :(
I like the new dark grey scheme. Reminds me of MiG-28 :cool: ;) :diablo:
Thanks, finally some good photos of the new Su-34 aircraft batch. Immediatelly I noticed something strange in front of the cockpit, seems to be a temporary solution, maybe an additional short range navigation antenna???? Well, well, a week ago you were complaining about Russian media spreading lies about "Su-34 growing pains"....:)
By: martinez
- 8th January 2013 at 19:21Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If it was a navigational antenna of any kind, shouldn't be on the back of the plane, behind the cockpit instead of the nose and pointing forward?
Why just on the back? always to cover the front and rear hemisphere do not you think? You cant do that with only one antenna on the tail, moreover it looks very similar to the short range nav antenna...
By: Jō Asakura
- 9th January 2013 at 13:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The 'Urals Civil Aviation Enterprise' (ОАО «Уральский завод гражданской авиации») successfully flight tested the first of its locally assembled 'IAI Searcher 2' (Russian name 'Forepost') UAVs last month.
- Indian AF - has ordered more Su-30's (270 now ordered). Given local input into assembly it's probable that any additional fighters are brought from here.
- Indian Navy - yes, very probable if carrier plans proceed. Remember though that Rafale also comes in carrier capable version.
- Syria - unlikely. Civil War shows no sign of abating and the country probably won't have any funding to replace fighters once it's finished.
- Iran - also unlikely. The Iranians don't seem interested in acquiring new foreign jets.
- Zimbabwe - as stated in article no cash.
- Peru - Unlikely - they're focusing on maintaining existing assets.
- Cuba - Extremely unlikely as country is broke.
- Sudan - definite possibility
- Bangladesh - Unlikely, they appeared unhappy with MiG-29
By: DrPepper
- 10th January 2013 at 22:26Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Who said the Bangladesh AF is unhappy with the Fulcrum? Every report I have read, including the recent AFM article, suggests the Bangladesh AF is very happy with the Fulcrum
In addition, Peru has recently acquired new MiG-29s (SM version I believe, no humpback)
By: mack8
- 10th January 2013 at 23:36Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Peru's MiG-29 are upgraded 9.13/9.13SEs and UBs (which they bought in the nineties). Apparently they are at a standard somewhat similar to SM, full A-A and A-G PGM capability, IFR , modernized radar etc.( two-seaters have CHFL strakes ahead of fins like the 9.53 UBs, plus IFR)
There were 5 Su-34 delivered to Baltimor/Voronezh in December , there are 5 more to be ferried to their unit about January 15 apparently.
By: a89
- 10th January 2013 at 23:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
In addition, Peru has recently acquired new MiG-29s (SM version I believe, no humpback)
There are no plans to acquire MiG-29 so far. I thought those SMT rejected by Algeria were a good option for many countries, as RSK MiG could not afford to have another scandal. By the way, I did not know about the 250 million $ deposit.
There is also Kazakhstan as a potential buyer.
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By: Berkut
- 10th January 2013 at 23:46Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Speaking of Su-35S , does anyone have a rough idea when the 6 Su-35S delivered ( formally ) last year will be ferried to their units? Thanks.:)
Currently it is just unit. Lipetsk.
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By: MSphere
- 11th January 2013 at 02:07Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Malaysia is also keeping the MiG-29 for longer than originally envisaged.
I think a UPG type upgrade would be smart in their case.
Too late, would be a waste of money.
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By: MSphere
- 11th January 2013 at 02:10Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Peru's MiG-29 are upgraded 9.13/9.13SEs and UBs (which they bought in the nineties). Apparently they are at a standard somewhat similar to SM, full A-A and A-G PGM capability, IFR , modernized radar etc.( two-seaters have CHFL strakes ahead of fins like the 9.53 UBs, plus IFR)
Cockpit is SMT standard with two MFI-10-7 LCDs. Rumors about radar are contradictory, it's either an N019M type upgrade or N010ME Zhuk-ME slotted type.
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By: Jō Asakura - 8th January 2013 at 13:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
...
More:
http://sky-hope.livejournal.com/384692.html
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By: Twinblade - 8th January 2013 at 13:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I like the new dark grey scheme. Reminds me of MiG-28 :cool: ;) :diablo:
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By: a89 - 8th January 2013 at 13:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
An excellent article on the MiG-29 and export possibilities:
http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/6-2012/item3/article2/
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By: martinez - 8th January 2013 at 15:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks, finally some good photos of the new Su-34 aircraft batch. Immediatelly I noticed something strange in front of the cockpit, seems to be a temporary solution, maybe an additional short range navigation antenna???? Well, well, a week ago you were complaining about Russian media spreading lies about "Su-34 growing pains"....:)
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By: Sheogorath - 8th January 2013 at 16:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If it was a navigational antenna of any kind, shouldn't be on the back of the plane, behind the cockpit instead of the nose and pointing forward?
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By: martinez - 8th January 2013 at 19:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why just on the back? always to cover the front and rear hemisphere do not you think? You cant do that with only one antenna on the tail, moreover it looks very similar to the short range nav antenna...
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By: Jō Asakura - 9th January 2013 at 13:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The 'Urals Civil Aviation Enterprise' (ОАО «Уральский завод гражданской авиации») successfully flight tested the first of its locally assembled 'IAI Searcher 2' (Russian name 'Forepost') UAVs last month.
Apparently the temperature was -30degC!!
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/428625.html
The УЗГА UAV assembly line @ Yekaterinburg:
Pics c/o Djoker.
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By: TR1 - 10th January 2013 at 20:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://lenta.ru/news/2013/01/10/su35s/
12 Su-35C to be delivered in 2013.
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By: mack8 - 10th January 2013 at 20:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Speaking of Su-35S , does anyone have a rough idea when the 6 Su-35S delivered ( formally ) last year will be ferried to their units? Thanks.:)
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By: thobbes - 10th January 2013 at 22:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Love those Su-34 shots.
Interesting but seems a bit optimistic:
- Indian AF - has ordered more Su-30's (270 now ordered). Given local input into assembly it's probable that any additional fighters are brought from here.
- Indian Navy - yes, very probable if carrier plans proceed. Remember though that Rafale also comes in carrier capable version.
- Syria - unlikely. Civil War shows no sign of abating and the country probably won't have any funding to replace fighters once it's finished.
- Iran - also unlikely. The Iranians don't seem interested in acquiring new foreign jets.
- Zimbabwe - as stated in article no cash.
- Peru - Unlikely - they're focusing on maintaining existing assets.
- Cuba - Extremely unlikely as country is broke.
- Sudan - definite possibility
- Bangladesh - Unlikely, they appeared unhappy with MiG-29
- Burma - definite possibility
- Malaysia - again unlikely. They're looking at retiring the MiG-29 as they're not happy with MiG-29. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/malaysia-to-phase-out-troublesome-mig-29-fighters-327276/
Given their current preference for Western-Eastern split I suspect the contract will be either for JAS-39 or F/A-18E/F.
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By: MSphere - 10th January 2013 at 22:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Haven't they already opted for MiG-29SMT?Posts: 288
By: DrPepper - 10th January 2013 at 22:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Who said the Bangladesh AF is unhappy with the Fulcrum? Every report I have read, including the recent AFM article, suggests the Bangladesh AF is very happy with the Fulcrum
In addition, Peru has recently acquired new MiG-29s (SM version I believe, no humpback)
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By: Tu 160 - 10th January 2013 at 22:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Was the number of Su 34 recently delivered to Rus VVS in Dec/Jan 10 or 11?
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By: TR1 - 10th January 2013 at 22:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Malaysia is also keeping the MiG-29 for longer than originally envisaged.
I think a UPG type upgrade would be smart in their case.
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By: TR1 - 10th January 2013 at 23:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/4779/
12 Su-25s were upgraded in 2012.
Another 12 in 2013.
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By: mack8 - 10th January 2013 at 23:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Peru's MiG-29 are upgraded 9.13/9.13SEs and UBs (which they bought in the nineties). Apparently they are at a standard somewhat similar to SM, full A-A and A-G PGM capability, IFR , modernized radar etc.( two-seaters have CHFL strakes ahead of fins like the 9.53 UBs, plus IFR)
There were 5 Su-34 delivered to Baltimor/Voronezh in December , there are 5 more to be ferried to their unit about January 15 apparently.
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By: a89 - 10th January 2013 at 23:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There are no plans to acquire MiG-29 so far. I thought those SMT rejected by Algeria were a good option for many countries, as RSK MiG could not afford to have another scandal. By the way, I did not know about the 250 million $ deposit.
There is also Kazakhstan as a potential buyer.
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By: Berkut - 10th January 2013 at 23:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Currently it is just unit. Lipetsk.
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By: MSphere - 11th January 2013 at 02:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Too late, would be a waste of money.Posts: 8,850
By: MSphere - 11th January 2013 at 02:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Cockpit is SMT standard with two MFI-10-7 LCDs. Rumors about radar are contradictory, it's either an N019M type upgrade or N010ME Zhuk-ME slotted type.