By: Gerard
- 11th August 2013 at 20:53Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
El Salvador : C-47TP :
I don't agree! It's a Bassler BT-76. El Salvadore had 3. The one on your pic is no longer in service. FAS 116 and FAS 118 are.
Here's is FAS 118 BT-76 Gunship
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By: MSphere
- 12th August 2013 at 00:05Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Are you sure? I got this 119 here..
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By: archangelski
- 12th August 2013 at 17:26Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't agree! It's a Bassler BT-76. El Salvadore had 3. The one on your pic is no longer in service. FAS 116 and FAS 118 are.
Here's is FAS 118 BT-76 Gunship
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I must admit the confusion ! Military or civil turbo conversion of DC-3/C-47 have always particularly bluff me. Basler BT-67A (not BT-76) (Salvadorian number FAS117) is a turbo conversion of C-47A-30-DK of 1944 (c/n 13964/25409) which crashed and is (was) stored for repair/spare parts.
By: ha27
- 14th August 2013 at 17:36Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[QUOTE=archangelski;2054888]Kenya :
hi Mr.archangleski..I appreciate your intrest in the aircraft.,but you're in the wrong way by scanning pics from magazines and books..its a copy right
thank you
By: KERVYN
- 15th August 2013 at 11:46Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
NICARAGUA 'then & now'..
by Googeling through the Air Force's, I've recently discovered this less-known roundel ;
..........................................................at first for this DC-3 ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219833[/ATTACH]
.......[ATTACH=CONFIG]219834[/ATTACH]................[ATTACH=CONFIG]219835[/ATTACH]..........and even a 'rural' version ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219836[/ATTACH]
For the Sandinista A/F, using the present roundel, see mainly the full explanations & many views in acig.org ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219839[/ATTACH]
......................And now, this is my 'today's' question ; I'd just like to see color photos (in flight :D ) (hello Archangelski :) ) of these rarities ;
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By: archangelski
- 15th August 2013 at 12:16Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Kenya :
hi Mr.archangleski..I appreciate your intrest in the aircraft.,but you're in the wrong way by scanning pics from magazines and books..its a copy right
thank you
Hello Ha27, I understand very well the problem.
As I reply earlier to other members of this thread, they are parts of a very old collection of books of my own (more than 20 or 30 years old for the most recent posted here. By then, of course, they are not really crystal clear or 20 Megapixels ones. I share these only because most are showing real rarities or no more in activities aircraft. I have no commercial interest and I'm not altering the properties.
By the same logic, most (if not all) pictures posted on thread like this one are copies of web pictures found on other sites without mention of captions (probably also copyrights).
If this pose problems, all right, have to work differently for future post.
Friendly, archangelski.
By: archangelski
- 15th August 2013 at 16:30Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
by Googeling through the Air Force's, I've recently discovered this less-known roundel ;
..........................................................at first for this DC-3 ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219833[/ATTACH]
.......[ATTACH=CONFIG]219834[/ATTACH]................[ATTACH=CONFIG]219835[/ATTACH]..........and even a 'rural' version ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219836[/ATTACH]
For the Sandinista A/F, using the present roundel, see mainly the full explanations & many views in acig.org ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219839[/ATTACH]
......................And now, this is my 'today's' question ; I'd just like to see color photos (in flight :D ) (hello Archangelski :) ) of these rarities ;
....................................................[ATTACH=CONFIG]219838[/ATTACH]...............[ATTACH=CONFIG]219837[/ATTACH]
By: gkozak
- 15th August 2013 at 22:35Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
with thanks, Gerard and Archangelski, for your Nicaraguan replies,
friendly, Etienne
Etienne, note the roundel on the fuselage of the Nicaraguan T-6. They did use a blue-yellow-red roundel on the fuselage (see the P-51 profile), but the colors on the T-6 are reversed. Could this be an unusual variant, or just an effect of the black/white photo? Not sure, but looks like triangle roundels on the underside of the wing. I will check with some contacts about this one. It looks very odd to me. Thanks for posting it!
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By: archangelski - 11th August 2013 at 18:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Guatemala : Navajo :
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By: archangelski - 11th August 2013 at 18:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Dassault Alpha Jet of Ivory Coast :
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By: Gerard - 11th August 2013 at 20:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't agree! It's a Bassler BT-76. El Salvadore had 3. The one on your pic is no longer in service. FAS 116 and FAS 118 are.
Here's is FAS 118 BT-76 Gunship
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By: MSphere - 12th August 2013 at 00:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Are you sure? I got this 119 here..
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By: Freehand - 12th August 2013 at 01:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Albanian Il-14 looks like the aircraft that used to fly around the communist leader Enver Hoxha.
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By: Gerard - 12th August 2013 at 08:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for correcting that. FAS 119 was also in the Escuadrón de Transporte.
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By: KERVYN - 12th August 2013 at 09:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Albanian Il-14 ..
yes, it seemed to be so , here is a (too) long article... I've read only the first § ...;
.... >> translation in Englishfriendly, Etienne
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By: archangelski - 12th August 2013 at 17:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I must admit the confusion ! Military or civil turbo conversion of DC-3/C-47 have always particularly bluff me. Basler BT-67A (not BT-76) (Salvadorian number FAS117) is a turbo conversion of C-47A-30-DK of 1944 (c/n 13964/25409) which crashed and is (was) stored for repair/spare parts.
View of "116" in 2005: http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6103704
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By: archangelski - 12th August 2013 at 17:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Malta Bulldog :
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By: archangelski - 12th August 2013 at 18:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Botswana :
Bulldog :
AS350B :
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By: archangelski - 12th August 2013 at 19:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Burundi :
Mi-35V :
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Ecuador Air Force Jaguar :
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By: archangelski - 13th August 2013 at 17:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Kenya :
Y-12 :
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By: ha27 - 14th August 2013 at 17:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[QUOTE=archangelski;2054888]Kenya :
hi Mr.archangleski..I appreciate your intrest in the aircraft.,but you're in the wrong way by scanning pics from magazines and books..its a copy right
thank you
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By: KERVYN - 15th August 2013 at 11:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
NICARAGUA 'then & now'..
by Googeling through the Air Force's, I've recently discovered this less-known roundel ;
..........................................................at first for this DC-3 ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219833[/ATTACH]
.......[ATTACH=CONFIG]219834[/ATTACH]................[ATTACH=CONFIG]219835[/ATTACH]..........and even a 'rural' version ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219836[/ATTACH]
in Wikipedia, there is also another (former)simplified triangle version ;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaraguan_Air_Force
For the Sandinista A/F, using the present roundel, see mainly the full explanations & many views in acig.org ;[ATTACH=CONFIG]219839[/ATTACH]
......................And now, this is my 'today's' question ; I'd just like to see color photos (in flight :D ) (hello Archangelski :) ) of these rarities ;
....................................................[ATTACH=CONFIG]219838[/ATTACH]...............[ATTACH=CONFIG]219837[/ATTACH]
friendly yours,
Etienne
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By: archangelski - 15th August 2013 at 12:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[QUOTE=ha27;2055238]
Hello Ha27, I understand very well the problem.
As I reply earlier to other members of this thread, they are parts of a very old collection of books of my own (more than 20 or 30 years old for the most recent posted here. By then, of course, they are not really crystal clear or 20 Megapixels ones. I share these only because most are showing real rarities or no more in activities aircraft. I have no commercial interest and I'm not altering the properties.
By the same logic, most (if not all) pictures posted on thread like this one are copies of web pictures found on other sites without mention of captions (probably also copyrights).
If this pose problems, all right, have to work differently for future post.
Friendly, archangelski.
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By: Gerard - 15th August 2013 at 14:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
@Kervijn
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The triangle is under the wing barely visible
and another oldie:
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By: archangelski - 15th August 2013 at 16:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: KERVYN - 15th August 2013 at 19:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
with thanks, Gerard and Archangelski, for your Nicaraguan replies,
friendly, Etienne
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By: gkozak - 15th August 2013 at 22:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Etienne, note the roundel on the fuselage of the Nicaraguan T-6. They did use a blue-yellow-red roundel on the fuselage (see the P-51 profile), but the colors on the T-6 are reversed. Could this be an unusual variant, or just an effect of the black/white photo? Not sure, but looks like triangle roundels on the underside of the wing. I will check with some contacts about this one. It looks very odd to me. Thanks for posting it!