By: gkozak
- 9th August 2013 at 21:42Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Nice, I am still looking for Surinam PC-7's with Surinam Air Force roundels and serials. If they were ever painted on.
I have seen them only with Swiss ferry registrations.
greetings,
Hendrik
Funny you should mention that. If you examine the image, you can see a white disk on the fuselage; I presume that is where the Suriname roundel was to be placed. Notice also the black rectangular marking on the fin. I surmise that this is where the Suriname registration number would be placed. Chris Thornberg's World Air Forces site lists three PC-7s operated by Suriname, numbers SAF-111, SAF-112, and SAF-113. It also notes that SAF-111's Swiss ferry registration was HB-HMN, and SAF-112's was HB-HMQ. So it looks like the aircraft in your photo was to be SAF-111, Hendrik. Remove the Swiss ferry registrations and the Swiss insignia, add the Suriname roundels and registration numbers, and I think you'll have it. Only thing is- what about the wing markings? I think the best way to determine that would be to look for other aircraft similarly marked with the Suriname roundel, and extrapolate to the PC-7. Will do some research and get back with everybody. Very, very interesting.
Well, there are relatively few images of aircraft from Suriname. However, I have ascertained that the registration numbers on their aircraft are replicated on the top left and bottom right wings, apparently without roundels. I assume there are roundels on the top right and lower left wings, too, but this is only conjecture.
By: Gerard
- 10th August 2013 at 10:08Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Interesting image from Costa Rica. I have never seen their national insignia presented like that on the wings.
I agree, never seen that before. Here are my collected pics from Costa Rica:
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By: archangelski
- 10th August 2013 at 20:18Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Really, it's an interesting 'publicity' movie !
Never seen before... thanks thus, Archangelski :applause:
friendly, Etienne
Only a little help to show that Google is not the only possibility to find something (even if it stay a marvelous instrument with infinite (?) knowledge).
That's why threads like this one also exist. :D
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By: KERVYN - 9th August 2013 at 21:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Surinamese PC-7's
searching for some pics, I've found this historical info, in a KP thread....:rolleyes: ;
let's wait & see 'a little bit' for some recent pics !
friendly, Etienne
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By: gkozak - 9th August 2013 at 21:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Funny you should mention that. If you examine the image, you can see a white disk on the fuselage; I presume that is where the Suriname roundel was to be placed. Notice also the black rectangular marking on the fin. I surmise that this is where the Suriname registration number would be placed. Chris Thornberg's World Air Forces site lists three PC-7s operated by Suriname, numbers SAF-111, SAF-112, and SAF-113. It also notes that SAF-111's Swiss ferry registration was HB-HMN, and SAF-112's was HB-HMQ. So it looks like the aircraft in your photo was to be SAF-111, Hendrik. Remove the Swiss ferry registrations and the Swiss insignia, add the Suriname roundels and registration numbers, and I think you'll have it. Only thing is- what about the wing markings? I think the best way to determine that would be to look for other aircraft similarly marked with the Suriname roundel, and extrapolate to the PC-7. Will do some research and get back with everybody. Very, very interesting.
Well, there are relatively few images of aircraft from Suriname. However, I have ascertained that the registration numbers on their aircraft are replicated on the top left and bottom right wings, apparently without roundels. I assume there are roundels on the top right and lower left wings, too, but this is only conjecture.
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By: gkozak - 9th August 2013 at 22:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[QUOTE=archangelski;2053567]
Note the Albanian flag on the tail of the Il-14 in the background of the H-5/Il-28 picture.
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By: Gerard - 10th August 2013 at 10:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Il-14 with the Albanian flag is most likely a VIP aircraft like the A109 below
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The same Beagle but now with the recent roundel:
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By: Gerard - 10th August 2013 at 10:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I agree, never seen that before. Here are my collected pics from Costa Rica:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]219693[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]219694[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]219695[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]219696[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]219697[/ATTACH]
Some me be reposts!
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By: Gerard - 10th August 2013 at 10:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
it looks like MSP003 did fly in different colors too:
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And its final color!
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Piper PA-31 350 Chieftain
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By: archangelski - 10th August 2013 at 12:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
For those interested in old Albanian roundels (bad quality) : (Sorry Etienne, not always jets and no in-flight pictures till now !)
Il-14 (with flag on tail) :
Mi-4A :
FT-2 (MiG-15UTI) :
CJ-6 (Type 61) :
F-5 (MiG-17F) :
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By: archangelski - 10th August 2013 at 13:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Fuerza Aérea Hondureña (Honduras Air Force) :
F-5E :
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By: KERVYN - 10th August 2013 at 15:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Albanian flag..
Yes, Greg, I've "well" seen the flag in ;
But, I prefer this recent 'red' view, at the Tirana Airport ;http://www.tirana-airport.com/?RoseToken=155169220193083155173199198142164107238201157082164160143095145154156152154155089156156154160214184090168180231crc508
friendly, Etienne
(you're right, Gerard, that Il-14 was a VIP version )
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By: archangelski - 10th August 2013 at 15:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
for Etienne :
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By: KERVYN - 10th August 2013 at 15:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks, but no problem, Archangelski... I'm patient, I can wait ...
friendly, Etienne
just seen your Afghanistan roundel, many thanks... !
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By: archangelski - 10th August 2013 at 15:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[QUOTE=KERVYN;2053955]Thanks, but no problem, Archangelski... I'm patient, I can wait ...
Etienne, have you already seen that (bad) movie ? Many Albanian jets in flight : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRpcLD5asjo
For exemple, picture from it :
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By: archangelski - 10th August 2013 at 15:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Zimbabwe Air Force Hawk Mk60 again :
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By: archangelski - 10th August 2013 at 17:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sultanate of Oman Jaguar :
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By: KERVYN - 10th August 2013 at 20:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Albanian Air Force
Really, it's an interesting 'publicity' movie !
Never seen before... thanks thus, Archangelski :applause:
friendly, Etienne
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By: KERVYN - 10th August 2013 at 20:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
"POLICIA de MISIONES "
in Argentina ;http://exoticplanes.blogspot.be/2013/08/province-de-misiones-government-of.html
with thanks to Dennis Jones !
found with Google, ;http://www.google.be/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=-tI21Xn3Quz2HM&tbnid=lnkjqMe42hmpcM:&ved=0CAUQjBwwADgb&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg193.imageshack.us%2Fimg193%2F1705%2Frockwell680flcoursercom.jpg&ei=HZcGUtuRLoe7OaiggMgE&psig=AFQjCNHzARswQdcpa-szHU7dJdUDOwQwgA&ust=1376250013796876
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By: archangelski - 10th August 2013 at 20:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Only a little help to show that Google is not the only possibility to find something (even if it stay a marvelous instrument with infinite (?) knowledge).
That's why threads like this one also exist. :D
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By: KERVYN - 10th August 2013 at 20:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
You are right !!
And... 'long life' to the KP-threads ...!
wishing you a fine Sunday,
friendly, Etienne
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By: archangelski - 11th August 2013 at 09:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Panama : T35D Pillan :
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By: archangelski - 11th August 2013 at 09:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
El Salvador : C-47TP :