Small Air Forces Thread #16

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Surinamese PC-7's

searching for some pics, I've found this historical info, in a KP thread....:rolleyes: ;

flex297

I know of three PC-7s in Suriname.. But since PC-7s are being listed as active in Surinamese service, there must have been some other aircraft, too..

#479 HB-HMN, serial 111
#480 HB-HMQ, serial 112
#481, serial 113

delivered Oct 1985, returned to Pilatus Mar 1987..

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let's wait & see 'a little bit' for some recent pics !

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Nice, I am still looking for Surinam PC-7's with Surinam Air Force roundels and serials. If they were ever painted on.
I have seen them only with Swiss ferry registrations.

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Hendrik

Funny you should mention that. If you examine the image, you can see a white disk on the fuselage; I presume that is where the Suriname roundel was to be placed. Notice also the black rectangular marking on the fin. I surmise that this is where the Suriname registration number would be placed. Chris Thornberg's World Air Forces site lists three PC-7s operated by Suriname, numbers SAF-111, SAF-112, and SAF-113. It also notes that SAF-111's Swiss ferry registration was HB-HMN, and SAF-112's was HB-HMQ. So it looks like the aircraft in your photo was to be SAF-111, Hendrik. Remove the Swiss ferry registrations and the Swiss insignia, add the Suriname roundels and registration numbers, and I think you'll have it. Only thing is- what about the wing markings? I think the best way to determine that would be to look for other aircraft similarly marked with the Suriname roundel, and extrapolate to the PC-7. Will do some research and get back with everybody. Very, very interesting.

Well, there are relatively few images of aircraft from Suriname. However, I have ascertained that the registration numbers on their aircraft are replicated on the top left and bottom right wings, apparently without roundels. I assume there are roundels on the top right and lower left wings, too, but this is only conjecture.

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I've searched, & found some 'good' video's of former Albanian jets, but all ones in b/w :mad:

this is the ONLY "in flight" COLOR pic I could find of an Albanese jet !! but of a really poor quality :

the marking on the tail is doubtful !!

in fact I'd like to see (in colors !) (& IN FLIGHT) their former roundel, (on a JET ).....................................]

Can you help ??

friendly, Etienne

Google is a good solution but threads friends too : (KERVYN, if you want more, simply ask) but, as GERARD say, rarity in flight !

FT-5 (MiG-15UTI) and F-6 (Mig-19) tail :[/QUOTEhttp://i42.tinypic.com/2yy5obo.jpg

F-7A (MiG-21F) : http://i43.tinypic.com/1608qjd.jpg

F-2 (MiG-15Bis) : http://i44.tinypic.com/e5p62q.jpg

H-5 (Il-28) : http://i44.tinypic.com/rab1fr.jpg

F-6 (MiG-19S) : http://i42.tinypic.com/2qmlp2f.jpg

Note the Albanian flag on the tail of the Il-14 in the background of the H-5/Il-28 picture.

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The Il-14 with the Albanian flag is most likely a VIP aircraft like the A109 below
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The same Beagle but now with the recent roundel:
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Interesting image from Costa Rica. I have never seen their national insignia presented like that on the wings.

I agree, never seen that before. Here are my collected pics from Costa Rica:
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Some me be reposts!

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.....................[ATTACH=CONFIG]219671[/ATTACH]

here is the answer :D ;http://www.google.be/imgres?q=costa+rica+msp+i000005&sa=X&biw=1920&bih=897&tbm=isch&tbnid=BDxKAinVRUAjqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.giorgiociarini.com/costa_rica_msp_index.htm&docid=o5X7w4aN1OALOM&imgurl=http://www.giorgiociarini.com/costa_rica_msp_i000005.jpg&w=872&h=604&ei=jvwEUqatOsLXPYbZgbgK&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:0,s:0,i:81&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=176&tbnw=254&start=0&ndsp=12&tx=154&ty=51

(not really an 'air force', but certainly a serious unit !)

friendly, Etienne

it looks like MSP003 did fly in different colors too:
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And its final color!
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For those interested in old Albanian roundels (bad quality) : (Sorry Etienne, not always jets and no in-flight pictures till now !)

Il-14 (with flag on tail) : http://i41.tinypic.com/n5lijp.jpg

Mi-4A : http://i42.tinypic.com/2m9rw8.jpg

FT-2 (MiG-15UTI) : http://i40.tinypic.com/2qbtcfp.jpg

CJ-6 (Type 61) :http://i43.tinypic.com/24y926h.jpg

F-5 (MiG-17F) :http://i44.tinypic.com/2v0zmog.jpg

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Fuerza Aérea Hondureña (Honduras Air Force) :

F-5E : http://i43.tinypic.com/332xbid.jpg

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Albanian flag..

Yes, Greg, I've "well" seen the flag in ;

Note the Albanian flag on the tail of the Il-14 in the background of the H-5/Il-28 picture.

But, I prefer this recent 'red' view, at the Tirana Airport ;http://www.tirana-airport.com/?RoseToken=155169220193083155173199198142164107238201157082164160143095145154156152154155089156156154160214184090168180231crc508

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(you're right, Gerard, that Il-14 was a VIP version )

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(Sorry Etienne, not always jets and no in-flight pictures till now !)

Thanks, but no problem, Archangelski... I'm patient, I can wait ...

friendly, Etienne

just seen your Afghanistan roundel, many thanks... !

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[QUOTE=KERVYN;2053955]Thanks, but no problem, Archangelski... I'm patient, I can wait ...

Etienne, have you already seen that (bad) movie ? Many Albanian jets in flight : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRpcLD5asjo

For exemple, picture from it : http://i39.tinypic.com/se24g7.jpg

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Zimbabwe Air Force Hawk Mk60 again :

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Albanian Air Force

Etienne, have you already seen that (bad) movie ? Many Albanian jets in flight

Really, it's an interesting 'publicity' movie !

Never seen before... thanks thus, Archangelski :applause:

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Really, it's an interesting 'publicity' movie !

Never seen before... thanks thus, Archangelski :applause:

friendly, Etienne

Only a little help to show that Google is not the only possibility to find something (even if it stay a marvelous instrument with infinite (?) knowledge).
That's why threads like this one also exist. :D

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You are right !!

And... 'long life' to the KP-threads ...!

wishing you a fine Sunday,

friendly, Etienne

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