Bell-Textron (la petite Bell qui monte) shows once more that in the aeronautical industry, you don't have to be massively market dominant to be at the forefront of market innovation.
"Both companies will now get into discussions to finalize the formation of the joint venture which will act as the prime contractor for India’s military helicopter tenders including the Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopter, the Naval Utility Helicopter and the Naval Multirole Helicopter procurement programs. The resulting joint venture aims to become the first private Indian helicopter manufacturer under the ‘Make in India’ initiative. This will create hundreds of high-tech jobs locally and lead to a flow of cutting edge technologies to India should it be selected in the governmental helicopter tenders," a joint statement said.
By: Levsha
- 7th July 2015 at 20:44Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
On the contrary to the Cougar earlier
Maybe it's because the Cougar was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade (a primary killer of helicopters these days) while the blackhawk was only hit by 7 bullets - it's written in the article given.
By: TomcatViP
- 7th July 2015 at 20:54Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I read that on BBC.com but no mention of the RPG was made in the press at the time. I am talking about the Cougar forced into a crash landing around Guadalajara by gang members using automatic weapon only:
"(The gunmen) attacked the military personnel with shots from firearms, hitting the Cougar helicopter, which conducted an emergency landing," the defense ministry said in a statement,
And
Officials say the New Generation cartel, led by Nemesio Oseguera, alias "El Mencho," has grown so powerful that it has produced its own assault rifles in makeshift gun assembly shops and has forged ties with gangs worldwide.
I don't understand how you can field a CSAR in such conditions with an aircraft based on a souped-up version of a civil Helo (just to hide the poor power to weight ratio of a vintage design). It's mind blogging to think that the guy that had to sign for this disaster might have assisted to the reception ceremony by stepping out of an... armored car.
By: Levsha
- 7th July 2015 at 21:06Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, the article Tango posted (and you quoted) mentioned an RPG shoot down of the Cougar helicopter on May 1st - third paragraph from the bottom.
But here is another link confirming the RPG kill by Mexican authorities:
By: Levsha
- 7th July 2015 at 21:10Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, the article Tango posted (and you quoted) mentioned an RPG shoot down of the Cougar helicopter on May 1st - third paragraph from the bottom.
But here is another link confirming the RPG kill by Mexican authorities:
edit - I see where the confusion lies. The Mexican authorities did initially describe the Cougar shootdown as a 'forced landing' - they pretty soon changed their story when the facts became clearer.
By: TomcatViP
- 7th July 2015 at 21:52Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thx for the update. I was not sure if those were not two different events. Yes facts are a bit blurry. i would like to read some witness accounts but after a quick search with ggl.mx only found the same editorial here and there.
Interestingly, the next generation helicopter for the US Army will see the same bidders present in both design : Textron/Bell partnering with LM for the V280 and Textron(Sikorsky) with Boeing or LM(Sikorsky) with Boeing for the Raider.
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By: Tango III - 30th June 2015 at 20:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Argentina signs MoU for 12 Airbus Helicopters H125s
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By: Tango III - 1st July 2015 at 14:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Tunisia to receive four 'modified' UH-60M helos
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By: Tango III - 2nd July 2015 at 18:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Bell 525 Relentless Makes Successful First Flight
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By: TomcatViP - 2nd July 2015 at 20:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not something to miss ;)
Also:
(raw power and a direct legacy of the "Y'ed" drive system and rotor)
Bell-Textron (la petite Bell qui monte) shows once more that in the aeronautical industry, you don't have to be massively market dominant to be at the forefront of market innovation.
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By: TR1 - 2nd July 2015 at 20:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hm. Well Ansat has civilian versions too, and they flew with fly-by-wire before ;) .
In fact because of the lack of a certification process for a civilian fly by wire chopper, they had to make a traditional variant to get certified.
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By: Tango III - 3rd July 2015 at 17:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
NHI works to address 'blade flap' rotor head issue
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By: Tango III - 7th July 2015 at 18:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Armed Forces of Malta to have third helicopter after €14 million deal signed
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By: Tango III - 7th July 2015 at 18:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Mexico gunmen attack Navy helicopter in Tamaulipas
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By: Rii - 7th July 2015 at 19:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Livefist: Airbus-Mahindra Announce JV for Indian Helo Goldmine
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By: TomcatViP - 7th July 2015 at 20:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
On the contrary to the Cougar earlier
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By: Levsha - 7th July 2015 at 20:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Maybe it's because the Cougar was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade (a primary killer of helicopters these days) while the blackhawk was only hit by 7 bullets - it's written in the article given.
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By: TomcatViP - 7th July 2015 at 20:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I read that on BBC.com but no mention of the RPG was made in the press at the time. I am talking about the Cougar forced into a crash landing around Guadalajara by gang members using automatic weapon only:
And
I don't understand how you can field a CSAR in such conditions with an aircraft based on a souped-up version of a civil Helo (just to hide the poor power to weight ratio of a vintage design). It's mind blogging to think that the guy that had to sign for this disaster might have assisted to the reception ceremony by stepping out of an... armored car.
Among other sources:
Yahoo: Gunmen hit army chopper in Mexico
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By: Levsha - 7th July 2015 at 21:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, the article Tango posted (and you quoted) mentioned an RPG shoot down of the Cougar helicopter on May 1st - third paragraph from the bottom.
But here is another link confirming the RPG kill by Mexican authorities:
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2015/05/jalisco-photos-ruins-of-military.html
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By: Levsha - 7th July 2015 at 21:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
edit - I see where the confusion lies. The Mexican authorities did initially describe the Cougar shootdown as a 'forced landing' - they pretty soon changed their story when the facts became clearer.
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By: TomcatViP - 7th July 2015 at 21:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thx for the update. I was not sure if those were not two different events. Yes facts are a bit blurry. i would like to read some witness accounts but after a quick search with ggl.mx only found the same editorial here and there.
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By: Tango III - 8th July 2015 at 18:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Erdoğan orders Prime Ministry to transfer helicopter and jet to palace
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By: Tango III - 8th July 2015 at 18:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Downsized US Army to shed 533 shunned OH-58 and TH-67 helicopters
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By: TomcatViP - 8th July 2015 at 20:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Next Mexico & Guatemala? It could make for a coherent Counter Narcotic force aside or the Super Tuc/A29 and, why not, the Scorpion.
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By: TomcatViP - 9th July 2015 at 00:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Lockheed Martin and Textron are selected bidder for Sikorsky buy
Interestingly, the next generation helicopter for the US Army will see the same bidders present in both design : Textron/Bell partnering with LM for the V280 and Textron(Sikorsky) with Boeing or LM(Sikorsky) with Boeing for the Raider.
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By: swerve - 9th July 2015 at 10:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sultan Recep I . . .