By: haavarla
- 11th March 2016 at 09:18Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Does this seem correct?
The performance characteristics of the aircraft :
The crew - 1 person
Su-35 / T-10M / T-10BM / Su-35S
Length 22.18 m 21.95 m
Wingspan 14.7 m 14.75 m
Height 6.35 / 6.43 m 5.92 m
wing area 62.04 sq.m. 62.2 m
Sweep angle on the leading edge of the wing 42 degrees. 42 degrees.
Wing loading at normal weight
414 kg / m 410 kg / m
Wing loading at the maximum weight 548 kg / m 611 kg / m
Thrust-weight ratio with normal weight 0.97 1.14
Thrust-weight ratio with a maximum weight 0.74 0.76
Take-off weight maximum 34000 kg 34500 kg
Take-off weight is normal 25700 kg 25300 kg (2 x P-77, P-2 x 73)
empty weight 18400 kg 19000 kg
Fuel Weight with PTB 14300 kg
Weight without fuel PTB
10250 kg 11500 kg
Payload mass 8000 kg 8000 kg
The speed at maximum height 2,500 km / h / 2.35M 2,500 km / h / 2.35M
2.25 M (altitude 11,000 m)
2,400 km / h (in the first phase of the CIO in 2011)
Maximum speed at ground 1400 km / h / 1.17 M 1400 km / h / 1.17 m (height 200 m, confirmed during the first phase of the CIO in 2011)
Maximum speed without afterburner
over 1,300 km / h (over 1.1 M)
in the first prior art T-10BM - 1.1 M
cruising speed 800-950 km / h / 0.75-0.9 M
Range with max 1 refueling 6300 km
Flight range with maximum PTB 4500 km (at an altitude of 2 x FTB-2000)
Range maximum without PTB
3400 km 3600 km (altitude, speed cruising)
Distance from land flight (speed - 0.7 m)
1580 km
Combat radius of action 1,600 km
The ceiling is a practical 18000 m 18000/19000 m
18000 m (in the first phase of the CIO in 2011)
rate of climb more than 280 m / s more than 280 m / s
Acceleration time at a height of 1000 m at the fuel balance of 50% of the normal refueling 600 km / h up to 1100 km / h - 13.8 to
1100 km / h up to 1300 km / h - 8
Maximum operating overload 9G
Area EPR (estimated) 0.5-2 m
run 400-450 m (normal takeoff weight, full afterburner)
Mileage 650-700 m (with brake parachute and normal landing weight)
By: blackwood
- 12th March 2016 at 01:04Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks TR1 for the pics. When I look at the factory I say to myself, no wonder they are not jumping straight to production of the Pak-Da. The work area looks so soviet era.
With the new Tu-160 being made first with new internal electronics etc and money being invested in new production machinery etc you would only then start Pak-Da production. The new Tu-160 gives the factory floor time to catch up in tooling, floor efficency, floor ergonomics etc.
By: haavarla
- 12th March 2016 at 07:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why not go for new multi function display in cockpit, when you build new airframe?
New
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By: Berkut
- 12th March 2016 at 10:26Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why not go for new multi function display in cockpit, when you build new airframe?
Wat. And where exactly do you see a new frame? You do realize they are modernizing Tu-160 to Tu-160M there and that we see the cockpit of the standard Tu-160?
We have no idea what Tu-160M2's cockpit will look like, and it is likely no-one does at this point.
By: TR1
- 14th March 2016 at 05:38Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks TR1 for the pics. When I look at the factory I say to myself, no wonder they are not jumping straight to production of the Pak-Da. The work area looks so soviet era.
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Well that make sense, that part of the plant has basically done nothing but modernize (slightly) a few air frames since Soviet times.
By: FoxbatRU
- 15th March 2016 at 08:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
First modernised Il-76MD. IL-76MDM - the project of modernization of aircraft Il-76M and Il-76MD designed to "Ilyushin" on the technical task of the Air Force issued in 2011 (ROC "Kuznetsk").
you guys think that cross section image are good to scale ? I'm thinking of measuring dimensions of the rocket motor of the missile based on the image.
By: ijozic
- 15th March 2016 at 20:35Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
My point is, all the talk about su-33 is a better choice than the Su-30sm for a su-24 replacement in crimea, which started in thread #338, is pure fantasy
Ah, sorry, yes, of course. I missed that post as I don't take the author seriously.
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By: haavarla - 11th March 2016 at 09:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Does this seem correct?
The performance characteristics of the aircraft :
The crew - 1 person
Length 22.18 m 21.95 m
Wingspan 14.7 m 14.75 m
Height 6.35 / 6.43 m 5.92 m
wing area 62.04 sq.m. 62.2 m
Sweep angle on the leading edge of the wing 42 degrees. 42 degrees.
Wing loading at normal weight
414 kg / m 410 kg / m
Wing loading at the maximum weight 548 kg / m 611 kg / m
Thrust-weight ratio with normal weight 0.97 1.14
Thrust-weight ratio with a maximum weight 0.74 0.76
Take-off weight maximum 34000 kg 34500 kg
Take-off weight is normal 25700 kg 25300 kg (2 x P-77, P-2 x 73)
empty weight 18400 kg 19000 kg
Fuel Weight with PTB 14300 kg
Weight without fuel PTB
10250 kg 11500 kg
Payload mass 8000 kg 8000 kg
The speed at maximum height 2,500 km / h / 2.35M 2,500 km / h / 2.35M
2.25 M (altitude 11,000 m)
2,400 km / h (in the first phase of the CIO in 2011)
Maximum speed at ground 1400 km / h / 1.17 M 1400 km / h / 1.17 m (height 200 m, confirmed during the first phase of the CIO in 2011)
Maximum speed without afterburner
over 1,300 km / h (over 1.1 M)
in the first prior art T-10BM - 1.1 M
cruising speed 800-950 km / h / 0.75-0.9 M
Range with max 1 refueling 6300 km
Flight range with maximum PTB 4500 km (at an altitude of 2 x FTB-2000)
Range maximum without PTB
3400 km 3600 km (altitude, speed cruising)
Distance from land flight (speed - 0.7 m)
1580 km
Combat radius of action 1,600 km
The ceiling is a practical 18000 m 18000/19000 m
18000 m (in the first phase of the CIO in 2011)
rate of climb more than 280 m / s more than 280 m / s
Acceleration time at a height of 1000 m at the fuel balance of 50% of the normal refueling 600 km / h up to 1100 km / h - 13.8 to
1100 km / h up to 1300 km / h - 8
Maximum operating overload 9G
Area EPR (estimated) 0.5-2 m
run 400-450 m (normal takeoff weight, full afterburner)
Mileage 650-700 m (with brake parachute and normal landing weight)
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By: Austin - 11th March 2016 at 10:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
MI-28N (Night Hunter). Military acceptance ( use English translator )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzUqtaZ1Dkw
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By: stealthflanker - 11th March 2016 at 12:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Looks reasonable. and the empty weight.. well really reminds me of the Su-37.
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By: Austin - 11th March 2016 at 15:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Revival of Russia's Aviation Industry - New Russian Transport Aircraft
http://russia-insider.com/en/print/13262
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By: TR1 - 11th March 2016 at 20:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Pics from KAPO:
http://www.tatar-inform.ru/photo/2016/03/10/4812/95979/#1
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By: blackwood - 12th March 2016 at 01:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks TR1 for the pics. When I look at the factory I say to myself, no wonder they are not jumping straight to production of the Pak-Da. The work area looks so soviet era.
With the new Tu-160 being made first with new internal electronics etc and money being invested in new production machinery etc you would only then start Pak-Da production. The new Tu-160 gives the factory floor time to catch up in tooling, floor efficency, floor ergonomics etc.
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By: haavarla - 12th March 2016 at 07:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why not go for new multi function display in cockpit, when you build new airframe?
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By: Berkut - 12th March 2016 at 10:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Wat. And where exactly do you see a new frame? You do realize they are modernizing Tu-160 to Tu-160M there and that we see the cockpit of the standard Tu-160?
We have no idea what Tu-160M2's cockpit will look like, and it is likely no-one does at this point.
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By: TR1 - 14th March 2016 at 05:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Well that make sense, that part of the plant has basically done nothing but modernize (slightly) a few air frames since Soviet times.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1789414.html
MiG-29s in Armenia.
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By: FoxbatRU - 15th March 2016 at 08:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
First modernised Il-76MD. IL-76MDM - the project of modernization of aircraft Il-76M and Il-76MD designed to "Ilyushin" on the technical task of the Air Force issued in 2011 (ROC "Kuznetsk").
http://www.airliners.net/photo/2793787/L/
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By: Berkut - 15th March 2016 at 16:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
After Syria this is hardly a surprise but Su-35S' that are doing combat patrol/QRA has now received R-77-1. Now, where is that R-37M...
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By: stealthflanker - 15th March 2016 at 17:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Soon maybe :D
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By: TR1 - 15th March 2016 at 17:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Uh, was there supposed to be a video with this comment?
Hook a brother up.
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By: Berkut - 15th March 2016 at 19:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No video. Just info from the infamous guy from Airforce.ru ;)
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By: stealthflanker - 15th March 2016 at 19:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I found some nice cross sectional image of Russian AAM's like R-77 and R-33..like this one from testpilot.ru
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/vympel/r/33/images/r33_s.jpg
you guys think that cross section image are good to scale ? I'm thinking of measuring dimensions of the rocket motor of the missile based on the image.
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By: ijozic - 15th March 2016 at 20:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ah, sorry, yes, of course. I missed that post as I don't take the author seriously.
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By: TR1 - 15th March 2016 at 21:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Nice photo of VKS hardware in Syria:
330 sorties:
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By: SergeyL - 16th March 2016 at 19:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: TR1 - 17th March 2016 at 01:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://dambiev.livejournal.com/84212.html
Photos from Kant Airbase in Kyrgyzstan.
http://nortwolf-sam.livejournal.com/1203821.html
Apparently MOD is ordering land based Redut-Poliment complex.
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By: Austin - 17th March 2016 at 07:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
IT would be logical to use the 9M96 with AESA on ships and convert it to land based system , Much like Aster or Israel MR-SAM program