Alparslan Çelik, a member of the Grey Wolves and the Turkmen Brigades operating in Syria, and he claimed "credit" for this.
He was held briefly before being released with all charges dropped because Celik said the Russian pilot was actually killed by another terrorist group (and not by his!).
Celik was released at the same time Erdogan was saying his "regrets" in Moscow for the planned shoot down of the Russian jet.
It was clearly a set-up operation....the irony is Turkish jets flew over Syria all the time....and Greece on a daily basis ;- )
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By: Nicolas10
- 24th August 2016 at 17:34Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
What makes you think this is a well set up trap for this aircraft that makes the basis of your other teories?
Because it spent at most a couple dozen seconds in Turkish airspace. And yet an F16 was there ready & close enough to shoot it down & obviously there was someone on hand to give the order for shooting.
In the light of what happened later, it seems reasonable to imagine that un-loyal NATO-friendly air force people did that to force Erdogan's policy in one direction by antagonizing Russia.
If those guys can get to fly a few F16s at the presidential palace or whatever, they sure can have some of their guys on patrol at the Syrian border, waiting for an opportunity to shoot down a Russian plane.
Maybe that's not what happened, who knows, but it's definitely not more unlikely than any other explanation.
Nic
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By: Nicolas10
- 24th August 2016 at 17:36Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Turkish side said they didn't knew the identity of the Su-24 before shooting down. They have shot down different Syrian aircraft, and surely this Su-24 didn't get any special treatment than those. What is not to believe in this official explaination?
Being french I don't know how any one could believe any official explanation whatsoever.
By: TR1
- 24th August 2016 at 19:12Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
For Russians humans are nothing more than biomass so it's was not a big deal for them. See the stories about all the dead Russian "volunteers" in Syria and Ukraine.
Oh look, the village idiot is here, and his Chinese-bot friend too.
What a stupid thread, not surprising given the OP though.
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By: Tony - 24th August 2016 at 17:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
What happened to those who killed Russian pilot, Oleg Peshkov, and his co-pilot when they ejected from their Su-24 in November 2015?
The airmen were shot at while parachuting down after ejection....a big no-no for all aviators.
Video is here http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/moment-syrian-rebels-fire-russian-6891721...warning graphic images.
Alparslan Çelik, a member of the Grey Wolves and the Turkmen Brigades operating in Syria, and he claimed "credit" for this.
He was held briefly before being released with all charges dropped because Celik said the Russian pilot was actually killed by another terrorist group (and not by his!).
Celik was released at the same time Erdogan was saying his "regrets" in Moscow for the planned shoot down of the Russian jet.
It was clearly a set-up operation....the irony is Turkish jets flew over Syria all the time....and Greece on a daily basis ;- )
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By: Nicolas10 - 24th August 2016 at 17:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Because it spent at most a couple dozen seconds in Turkish airspace. And yet an F16 was there ready & close enough to shoot it down & obviously there was someone on hand to give the order for shooting.
In the light of what happened later, it seems reasonable to imagine that un-loyal NATO-friendly air force people did that to force Erdogan's policy in one direction by antagonizing Russia.
If those guys can get to fly a few F16s at the presidential palace or whatever, they sure can have some of their guys on patrol at the Syrian border, waiting for an opportunity to shoot down a Russian plane.
Maybe that's not what happened, who knows, but it's definitely not more unlikely than any other explanation.
Nic
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By: Nicolas10 - 24th August 2016 at 17:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Being french I don't know how any one could believe any official explanation whatsoever.
Nic
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By: TR1 - 24th August 2016 at 19:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh look, the village idiot is here, and his Chinese-bot friend too.
What a stupid thread, not surprising given the OP though.