By: Sintra
- 1st November 2016 at 11:45Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Now could the PLAAF be nice and release the exact dimensions of the J-20?
Pretty please?
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By: Byoin
- 1st November 2016 at 12:26Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Nobody from current and perspective Chinese clients needs AESA. The FC-1 has so far sold surprisingly poorly, given the fact that the concept of a mid-tech lightweight single-engined fighter in the $20-30mil range is an excellent one.. An FC-1 with AESA will sell even worse. You buy Chinese if you want to save on procurement cost and operating cost, not if you want state-of-art.
Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.
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FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24
also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.
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By: Byoin
- 1st November 2016 at 12:27Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
By: Sintra
- 1st November 2016 at 13:51Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.
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FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24
also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.
There´s no confirmation of any JF17 sale to either Sudan or Azerbaijan
Well at least your numbers on the SH are correct.
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By: Y-20 Bacon
- 1st November 2016 at 13:58Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
looking at the new pics, i take back my comments on the j-20 paint
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By: MSphere
- 1st November 2016 at 23:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.
FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24
Pakistan is a program member for the FC-1, their planes count roughly as for "exports" as German Eurofighters. In fact, there was no single FC-1 exported as of yet, the first ones will be for Nigerian AF in 2017-18.
All the other numbers you have there are completely wrong.
also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.
There are no FC-1s being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan, none of these countries has signed a deal.
By: QuantumFX
- 2nd November 2016 at 04:32Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.
fact
FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24
also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.
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By: Y-20 Bacon
- 2nd November 2016 at 04:39Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This day will be remembered!
Now your next line: "They copied F-35 paint"
:D
I would but your teammate byoin is more likely to say that
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By: Y-20 Bacon
- 2nd November 2016 at 04:40Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
WTF is that.......??? :confused: Just a simulator a future J-10 variant? :confused: :confused:
the aircraft on the screen has a delta and two engines, maybe its a j-20 simulator
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By: Y-20 Bacon
- 2nd November 2016 at 05:48Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
China to buy new model Russian helicopters including the Ansat (built by muslims). chosen over z-11 and other types
By: QuantumFX
- 2nd November 2016 at 06:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't think that's a mockup of the J-20. Nose geometry looks different and the J-20 doesn't have an EOS on the nose.
True. The dimensions are too small. The location of the IRST is odd. This is probably a generic systems display. Showing the IRST input on the the displays etc. Though some of the components could be headed for future J-10 (J-10D?) and JF-17.
By: latenlazy
- 2nd November 2016 at 06:48Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
True. The dimensions are too small. The location of the IRST is odd. This is probably a generic systems display. Showing the IRST input on the the displays etc. Though some of the components could be headed for future J-10 (J-10D?) and JF-17.
That's my thinking too. Not the first time we've seen one of these generic mock ups in Zhuhai.
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By: Y-20 Bacon
- 2nd November 2016 at 06:52Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
reminds me of this picture which was before the j-20 came out.
everyone began overanalyziing it
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By: QuantumFX - 1st November 2016 at 10:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:eek: :eek: :eek:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249444[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249445[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249446[/ATTACH]
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By: QuantumFX - 1st November 2016 at 10:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Let not forget the other "20":
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249447[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249448[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249449[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249450[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249451[/ATTACH]
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By: Sintra - 1st November 2016 at 11:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Now could the PLAAF be nice and release the exact dimensions of the J-20?
Pretty please?
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By: Byoin - 1st November 2016 at 12:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.
fact
FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24
also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.
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By: Byoin - 1st November 2016 at 12:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
omg look how smooth it is
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By: Sintra - 1st November 2016 at 13:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Gripen - 36 (Brasil) + 26 (South Africa) + 12 (Thailand) = 74 airframes
Rafale - 24 (Egypt) + 24 (Qatar) + 36 (India) = 84 airframes
There´s no confirmation of any JF17 sale to either Sudan or Azerbaijan
Well at least your numbers on the SH are correct.
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 1st November 2016 at 13:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
looking at the new pics, i take back my comments on the j-20 paint
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By: MSphere - 1st November 2016 at 23:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Pakistan is a program member for the FC-1, their planes count roughly as for "exports" as German Eurofighters. In fact, there was no single FC-1 exported as of yet, the first ones will be for Nigerian AF in 2017-18.
All the other numbers you have there are completely wrong.
There are no FC-1s being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan, none of these countries has signed a deal.
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By: foxmulder_ms - 2nd November 2016 at 02:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This day will be remembered!
Now your next line: "They copied F-35 paint"
:D
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By: QuantumFX - 2nd November 2016 at 04:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 2nd November 2016 at 04:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I would but your teammate byoin is more likely to say that
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 2nd November 2016 at 04:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
the aircraft on the screen has a delta and two engines, maybe its a j-20 simulator
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 2nd November 2016 at 05:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
China to buy new model Russian helicopters including the Ansat (built by muslims). chosen over z-11 and other types
https://lenta.ru/news/2016/11/01/ansat/
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By: Marcellogo - 2nd November 2016 at 05:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Radar plate showed in J-20 maquette doesn't occuy all possible space, maybe a rotating arrangement like the Gripen E one?
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By: QuantumFX - 2nd November 2016 at 05:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:D
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By: QuantumFX - 2nd November 2016 at 05:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thats what I was thinking. Reminded me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0JvBtbCURA
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By: latenlazy - 2nd November 2016 at 06:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't think that's a mockup of the J-20. Nose geometry looks different and the J-20 doesn't have an EOS on the nose.
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By: QuantumFX - 2nd November 2016 at 06:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
True. The dimensions are too small. The location of the IRST is odd. This is probably a generic systems display. Showing the IRST input on the the displays etc. Though some of the components could be headed for future J-10 (J-10D?) and JF-17.
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By: latenlazy - 2nd November 2016 at 06:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That's my thinking too. Not the first time we've seen one of these generic mock ups in Zhuhai.
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 2nd November 2016 at 06:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
reminds me of this picture which was before the j-20 came out.
everyone began overanalyziing it