Chinese air power thread 18

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Even copied the Russian colour scheme. http://defense-update.com/20161018_j20new.html http://defense-update.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/j20_new_image1021.jpg
I thought it had a similar style of stealth paint as on the f-22 and f-35, but with these better resolution pics. I am disappointed. they are more like the f-16 type of paint.
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Here: [ATTACH=CONFIG]249114[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]249115[/ATTACH]
thanks, looks like they are not using a bay

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It is sad to see and difficult to understand some Russian fans coming Chinese topics and poopooing Chinese hardware. I think it shows insecurity that their old pupil might be indeed eclipsing them. You do not see the opposite much. I do not know what urges these people to come and state "haha Chinese copied rear mirror copied the wings, their design sucks, it doesn't even have wheels etc.." Just chill and enjoy the picture stream. Chinese are looking at other designs obviously, as all others does; but J-20 is as unique as it gets so please be a little bit more considered and try to be a little bit more objective.

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It is sad to see and difficult to understand some Russian fans coming Chinese topics and poopooing Chinese hardware. I think it shows insecurity that their old pupil might be indeed eclipsing them. You do not see the opposite much. I do not know what urges these people to come and state "haha Chinese copied rear mirror copied the wings, their design sucks, it doesn't even have wheels etc.." Just chill and enjoy the picture stream. Chinese are looking at other designs obviously, as all others does; but J-20 is as unique as it gets so please be a little bit more considered and try to be a little bit more objective.
indeed. with allies like these who needs enemies
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indeed. with allies like these who needs enemies
China is extremely weak ally. allies are measured by using joint force.

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Nope.. they are on top Here is a shot of the bottom and there are no flare ejectors. http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/16/42/980x626/gallery-1476816492-17872587-980x1200-0.jpg
That is assuming the flare ejectors are behind enclosed panels like on other fighter aircraft and thus very difficult to identify. Personally I'm not sure if those things on the tail are flare ejectors, and if they are, I'm not sure if that means we should expect any ventral flare ejectors to be easily identifiable or if they may be behind panels.
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And?
That is assuming the flare ejectors are behind enclosed panels like on other fighter aircraft and thus very difficult to identify. Personally I'm not sure if those things on the tail are flare ejectors, and if they are, I'm not sure if that means we should expect any ventral flare ejectors to be easily identifiable or if they may be behind panels.
I'm fairly certain that they are chaff/flare dispensers - zoom in to about 300% on the photo of the J-20 in primer and you can even barely discern the individual tubes. There may be additional dispensers behind doors on the underside of course, but that doesn't change the fact that there's a 90%ish chance Byoin was talking BS when he said I was incorrect.
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few more. Zhuhai Airshow (Air Show China) 2016 will be from 01-06 November. Hopefully we will get some official specifications on the J-20 (though I admit its unlikely). [ATTACH=CONFIG]249180[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]249181[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]249182[/ATTACH]
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pattern looks Russian but the paint type looks a lot like this http://www.f-16.net/g3/var/resizes/f-16-photos/album41/album40/aau.jpg?m=1370894664 rather than http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TvugnPu0vPk/UU3OnqvnhuI/AAAAAAAAvmM/ojxjCbrgEw8/s1600/2013_CF6_Paint_00392PR_1269967624_4482.jpg
Kisses.. https://s17.postimg.org/9b8v4bk7j/j20_2017d.jpg

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I'm fairly certain that they are chaff/flare dispensers - zoom in to about 300% on the photo of the J-20 in primer and you can even barely discern the individual tubes. There may be additional dispensers behind doors on the underside of course, but that doesn't change the fact that there's a 90%ish chance Byoin was talking BS when he said I was incorrect.
Yes, well I think your mistake was taking Byoin's posts with any sort of seriousness to begin with :p
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Kisses.. https://s17.postimg.org/9b8v4bk7j/j20_2017d.jpg
find one that is not overly saturated on photoshop
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Yes, well I think your mistake was taking Byoin's posts with any sort of seriousness to begin with :p
That is assuming the flare ejectors are behind enclosed panels like on other fighter aircraft and thus very difficult to identify. Personally I'm not sure if those things on the tail are flare ejectors, and if they are, I'm not sure if that means we should expect any ventral flare ejectors to be easily identifiable or if they may be behind panels.
lol what a flip flopper. first you agree with Mr. Chinabot's post doubting they were flare ejectors, and after a neutral person proved both of you wrong, then you switch your position lol. reminds me a lot about the claims of the J-20 not being the same size as the Flanker until Quantum and a bunch of others showed that they were the same, using the same exact sattelite image the naysayers used

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lol what a flip flopper. first you agree with Mr. Chinabot's post doubting they were flare ejectors, and after a neutral person proved both of you wrong, then you switch your position lol. reminds me a lot about the claims of the J-20 not being the same size as the Flanker until Quantum and a bunch of others showed that they were the same, using the same exact sattelite image the naysayers used
ok Jo Asukura, I don't know why Russian posters keep coming here dismissing Chinese aircraft. A lot of Chinese and non-Chinese like Blitzo enjoy normal conversation and news here and we care about facts the J-20 is only slightly longer than f-22. it just LOOKS longer because the f-22 has a huge reflective tail. If it had a smaller tail like the j-20, it would also Look long. for example https://s13.postimg.org/s31w59o0n/f_22.jpg the longest and largest aircraft are always Russian. the PAKFA is longer and bigger than the j-20 and the f-22. especially because of its tandem bays.