Chinese air power thread 18

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flight characteristics of what? how did you find 5-9%?

its just paralay being parlayay

he thinks the inside of the pakfa looks like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/wsoul/intakes0.jpg

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J-10B with WS-10B: Its unclear whether this is either #154 or #155. If it is not, then could mean WS-10B for J-10 is maturing.

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its just paralay being parlayay

he thinks the inside of the pakfa looks like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/wsoul/intakes0.jpg

what are you implying here ?

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its just paralay being parlayay

This is one of the options, it was made in 2010. Catch up, we in 2016 ;)
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what are you implying here ?

don't shoot the messenger. I am not the one who created that. You should direct your anger or non-anger to the person who made it.

but it seems that he has since updated this W duct to an M duct.

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you'd be great friends with this guy...

If you can objectively compare these two aircraft, we will be friends ;)

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It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?

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It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?

hello part time crustacean.
it seems nothing more than a rumor.
it is highly unlikely a trainer plane, even an armed one, would use a pesa radar.

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It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?

the L-15Z is an upgraded AFT version (Attack/Fighter/Trainer) - http://www.janes.com/article/63940/aad-2016-china-s-hongdu-l-15aft-showcased-by-zambian-air-force

The Zambian version has a small ESA radar (PESA?). Speculated to have a max range of 110km but target size not known (http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/trainers.html#JL-10). It seems the PLAAF JL-10 does not have an ESA.

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the L-15Z is an upgraded AFT version (Attack/Fighter/Trainer) - http://www.janes.com/article/63940/aad-2016-china-s-hongdu-l-15aft-showcased-by-zambian-air-force

The Zambian version has a small ESA radar (PESA?). Speculated to have a max range of 110km but target size not known (http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/trainers.html#JL-10). It seems the PLAAF JL-10 does not have an ESA.

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well now I stand corrected. it even looks the L-15 might be more combat capable than the Yak and Leonardo

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3 different flavors: J-10B (AL-31FN), J-10B (WS-10B), J-10C

J-10B (AL-31FN)
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-10B/Collection%202016-10-12%20Onwards/J10B_1.jpg

J-10B (WS-10B)
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-10B/Collection%202016-10-12%20Onwards/J10B-WS10B_1.jpg

J-10C
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-10B/Collection%202016-10-12%20Onwards/J10C_1.jpg
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-10B/Collection%202016-10-12%20Onwards/J10C_6.jpg
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-10B/Collection%202016-10-12%20Onwards/J10C_2.jpg

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great pics!

it has came a long way from lavi inspired
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i66IAYckkX4/UAyYrztZ9SI/AAAAAAAAALI/uenPKshJ3_o/s1600/J-10_mockup.jpg

to pachunka level!

Israel should adopt it one day, looks so right

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I'm curious about the radar and its capabilities because the L-15AFT variant is such a small radome. 110km isn't very powerful, but a very small, modular PESA radar for export as an upgrade package might be inciting for some 3rd world customers. TBH I never expected the L-15 to become an active combat platform. If it was compatible with PL-12 or the simplified SD-10A export variant it could be interested, even if Passive ESA development is a dead end.

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I'm curious about the radar and its capabilities because the L-15AFT variant is such a small radome. 110km isn't very powerful, but a very small, modular PESA radar for export as an upgrade package might be inciting for some 3rd world customers. TBH I never expected the L-15 to become an active combat platform. If it was compatible with PL-12 or the simplified SD-10A export variant it could be interested, even if Passive ESA development is a dead end.

there's nothing more they can do since the l-15s radome is small to begin with. sometimes radar size equals range.

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there's nothing more they can do since the l-15s radome is small to begin with. sometimes radar size equals range.

Well that's exactly my point. If a very small, lightweight PESA radar has been developed for the L-15, it's conceivable that it could be export by itself, as part of an upgrade package for other small randomed aircraft, like the RACR and SABR radar platforms. This could be an especially lucrative possibility if longer range air-to-air ordinance were made compatible with it in the future.

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Is the L-15's radome really any smaller than the J-7's? The radar was likely developed from that line of technology.

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