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That Radar looks like to work on L-band

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That Radar looks like to work on L-band

Elements in that radar are similar to the YLC-8B

Some other Counter-LO systems,

JY-27A - https://i.imgur.com/Vk3v0eT.jpg
YLC-8B - https://i.imgur.com/ScGQvv6.jpg
HK-JM2 - https://i.imgur.com/P4xGzkq.jpg
JL3D-91B - https://i.imgur.com/6FSvpqJ.jpg

JY-50 - https://i.imgur.com/ApJJwI9.jpg
YLC-29 - https://i.imgur.com/OtNtTzQ.jpg

DWL001 - https://i.imgur.com/WyokFRX.jpg
DWL002 - https://i.imgur.com/vWMtMrI.jpg
YLC-20 - https://i.imgur.com/JV0uEeh.jpg (Older brochure - https://i.imgur.com/sJbc8bp.jpg)

Unknown system (OTH?) - https://i.imgur.com/XFinBp1.jpg

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J-11B armed with a PL-15 - Link

*note: didn't directly attach the image since it is from airliners.net

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J-11B armed with a PL-15 - Link

*note: didn't directly attach the image since it is from airliners.net

Do we have size estimate ?

Looks to me like it is pretty similar to AMRAAM. perhaps it has 200mm diameter as R-77. AFAIK it's been claimed to have long reach of 150-200 km. I found it rather hard to believe, for at least missile of its size. Running few numbers and assumes AMRAAM like battery capacity for controlled flight (150 seconds). M 1.2 launch speed and 15000 m altitude and missile L/D of 2 (typical for axisymmetric airframe) i found the trajectory for boost-glide profile range is like 60-68 NMI (111-120 km). putting it within the envelope of the latest AMRAAM and R-77-1.

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Do we have size estimate ?

Looks to me like it is pretty similar to AMRAAM. perhaps it has 200mm diameter as R-77. AFAIK it's been claimed to have long reach of 150-200 km. I found it rather hard to believe, for at least missile of its size. Running few numbers and assumes AMRAAM like battery capacity for controlled flight (150 seconds). M 1.2 launch speed and 15000 m altitude and missile L/D of 2 (typical for axisymmetric airframe) i found the trajectory for boost-glide profile range is like 60-68 NMI (111-120 km). putting it within the envelope of the latest AMRAAM and R-77-1.


AIM-120D is rated at 160km and is 180mm diameter with a single-burn engine.

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AIM-120D is rated at 160km and is 180mm diameter with a single-burn engine.

Not 180km anymore ? and well single burn engine means it use Boost-glide trajectory. You boost to apogee, and glide from there where your airframe will attempt to maintain near max L/D ratio.

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Not 180km anymore ? and well single burn engine means it use Boost-glide trajectory. You boost to apogee, and glide from there where your airframe will attempt to maintain near max L/D ratio.


You can use that trajectory even with dual-burn.

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You can use that trajectory even with dual-burn.

and that's exactly what i use for my PL-15 estimate.

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Do we have size estimate ?

Looks to me like it is pretty similar to AMRAAM. perhaps it has 200mm diameter as R-77. AFAIK it's been claimed to have long reach of 150-200 km. I found it rather hard to believe, for at least missile of its size. Running few numbers and assumes AMRAAM like battery capacity for controlled flight (150 seconds). M 1.2 launch speed and 15000 m altitude and missile L/D of 2 (typical for axisymmetric airframe) i found the trajectory for boost-glide profile range is like 60-68 NMI (111-120 km). putting it within the envelope of the latest AMRAAM and R-77-1.

There are no official specs for the PL-15. I think It has been cleared for export (PL-15E?) so we might get some export specs. Below are the specs for the SD-10A (PL-12 export version). PL-15 has a new motor (dual pulse rocket?), seeker (AESA?) but they may have reduced the speed. SD-10A is unusually fast for a missile of its class. The PL-15 touted a AIM-120D class missile.

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There are no official specs for the PL-15. I think It has been cleared for export (PL-15E?) so we might get some export specs. Below are the specs for the SD-10A (PL-12 export version). PL-15 has a new motor (dual pulse rocket?), seeker (AESA?) but they may have reduced the speed. SD-10A is unusually fast for a missile of its class. The PL-15 touted a AIM-120D class missile.

Thanks. Looking at the spec tho. I somewhat feel that PL-15 might have similar dimension as the PL-12 But with the refinements you mentioned and that new fin configurations.

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You have a link to the sources for the pictures above???

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New export of a JF-17B to Myanmar.

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And it looks like the JF-17 is blooded with a MiG-21 Bison and a Su-30MKI. At least, the Pakistani air force is confident of it.

Kill patches. Worn by a Turkish pilot as well at Pakistan Day ceremonies.

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How is this Chinese air power content? That's like posting this in US air power thread, had the plane involved been F-16 instead of JF-17.

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Plus we haven't even see the wreckage of supposedly "shot down" Su-30MKI.
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Anyway how about more images about J-20/J-31. ?

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There is as much evidence of Su-30MKI shootdown as F-16 shootdown, which is none.