By: Semi-Lobster - 12th October 2016 at 03:59Permalink
It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 12th October 2016 at 04:09Permalink
It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?
hello part time crustacean.
it seems nothing more than a rumor.
it is highly unlikely a trainer plane, even an armed one, would use a pesa radar.
By: QuantumFX - 12th October 2016 at 04:57Permalink
It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?
By: Semi-Lobster - 12th October 2016 at 17:01Permalink
I'm curious about the radar and its capabilities because the L-15AFT variant is such a small radome. 110km isn't very powerful, but a very small, modular PESA radar for export as an upgrade package might be inciting for some 3rd world customers. TBH I never expected the L-15 to become an active combat platform. If it was compatible with PL-12 or the simplified SD-10A export variant it could be interested, even if Passive ESA development is a dead end.
I'm curious about the radar and its capabilities because the L-15AFT variant is such a small radome. 110km isn't very powerful, but a very small, modular PESA radar for export as an upgrade package might be inciting for some 3rd world customers. TBH I never expected the L-15 to become an active combat platform. If it was compatible with PL-12 or the simplified SD-10A export variant it could be interested, even if Passive ESA development is a dead end.
there's nothing more they can do since the l-15s radome is small to begin with. sometimes radar size equals range.
By: Semi-Lobster - 13th October 2016 at 05:44Permalink
there's nothing more they can do since the l-15s radome is small to begin with. sometimes radar size equals range.
Well that's exactly my point. If a very small, lightweight PESA radar has been developed for the L-15, it's conceivable that it could be export by itself, as part of an upgrade package for other small randomed aircraft, like the RACR and SABR radar platforms. This could be an especially lucrative possibility if longer range air-to-air ordinance were made compatible with it in the future.
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 9th October 2016 at 15:08 Permalink
its just paralay being parlayay
he thinks the inside of the pakfa looks like this
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By: QuantumFX - 10th October 2016 at 05:34 Permalink
J-10B with WS-10B: Its unclear whether this is either #154 or #155. If it is not, then could mean WS-10B for J-10 is maturing.
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By: KGB - 10th October 2016 at 17:40 Permalink
what are you implying here ?
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By: paralay - 10th October 2016 at 17:53 Permalink
This is one of the options, it was made in 2010. Catch up, we in 2016 ;)
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By: paralay - 10th October 2016 at 17:56 Permalink
http://www.paralay.com/paralay_tab.xls
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 11th October 2016 at 07:09 Permalink
you'd be great friends with this guy
http://forum.keypublishing.com/member.php?21126-topspeed
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 11th October 2016 at 07:10 Permalink
don't shoot the messenger. I am not the one who created that. You should direct your anger or non-anger to the person who made it.
but it seems that he has since updated this W duct to an M duct.
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By: paralay - 11th October 2016 at 17:50 Permalink
If you can objectively compare these two aircraft, we will be friends ;)
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By: Semi-Lobster - 12th October 2016 at 03:59 Permalink
It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 12th October 2016 at 04:09 Permalink
hello part time crustacean.
it seems nothing more than a rumor.
it is highly unlikely a trainer plane, even an armed one, would use a pesa radar.
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By: QuantumFX - 12th October 2016 at 04:57 Permalink
the L-15Z is an upgraded AFT version (Attack/Fighter/Trainer) - http://www.janes.com/article/63940/aad-2016-china-s-hongdu-l-15aft-showcased-by-zambian-air-force
The Zambian version has a small ESA radar (PESA?). Speculated to have a max range of 110km but target size not known (http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/trainers.html#JL-10). It seems the PLAAF JL-10 does not have an ESA.
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 12th October 2016 at 05:03 Permalink
well now I stand corrected. it even looks the L-15 might be more combat capable than the Yak and Leonardo
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By: QuantumFX - 12th October 2016 at 06:28 Permalink
3 different flavors: J-10B (AL-31FN), J-10B (WS-10B), J-10C
J-10B (AL-31FN)
J-10B (WS-10B)
J-10C
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By: QuantumFX - 12th October 2016 at 06:29 Permalink
J-10C again:
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 12th October 2016 at 08:59 Permalink
great pics!
it has came a long way from lavi inspired
to pachunka level!
Israel should adopt it one day, looks so right
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By: Semi-Lobster - 12th October 2016 at 17:01 Permalink
I'm curious about the radar and its capabilities because the L-15AFT variant is such a small radome. 110km isn't very powerful, but a very small, modular PESA radar for export as an upgrade package might be inciting for some 3rd world customers. TBH I never expected the L-15 to become an active combat platform. If it was compatible with PL-12 or the simplified SD-10A export variant it could be interested, even if Passive ESA development is a dead end.
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By: Evastun - 12th October 2016 at 20:28 Permalink
there's nothing more they can do since the l-15s radome is small to begin with. sometimes radar size equals range.
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By: Semi-Lobster - 13th October 2016 at 05:44 Permalink
Well that's exactly my point. If a very small, lightweight PESA radar has been developed for the L-15, it's conceivable that it could be export by itself, as part of an upgrade package for other small randomed aircraft, like the RACR and SABR radar platforms. This could be an especially lucrative possibility if longer range air-to-air ordinance were made compatible with it in the future.
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By: Rii - 13th October 2016 at 06:13 Permalink
Is the L-15's radome really any smaller than the J-7's? The radar was likely developed from that line of technology.
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By: KGB - 17th October 2016 at 21:36 Permalink
latest look