Chinese air power thread 18

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Let not forget the other "20":

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Now could the PLAAF be nice and release the exact dimensions of the J-20?
Pretty please?

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Nobody from current and perspective Chinese clients needs AESA. The FC-1 has so far sold surprisingly poorly, given the fact that the concept of a mid-tech lightweight single-engined fighter in the $20-30mil range is an excellent one.. An FC-1 with AESA will sell even worse. You buy Chinese if you want to save on procurement cost and operating cost, not if you want state-of-art.

Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.

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FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24

also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.

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omg look how smooth it is

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Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.

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FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24

also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.

Gripen - 36 (Brasil) + 26 (South Africa) + 12 (Thailand) = 74 airframes

Rafale - 24 (Egypt) + 24 (Qatar) + 36 (India) = 84 airframes

There´s no confirmation of any JF17 sale to either Sudan or Azerbaijan

Well at least your numbers on the SH are correct.

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looking at the new pics, i take back my comments on the j-20 paint

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Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.
FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24

Pakistan is a program member for the FC-1, their planes count roughly as for "exports" as German Eurofighters. In fact, there was no single FC-1 exported as of yet, the first ones will be for Nigerian AF in 2017-18.

All the other numbers you have there are completely wrong.

also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.

There are no FC-1s being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan, none of these countries has signed a deal.

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looking at the new pics, i take back my comments on the j-20 paint

This day will be remembered!

Now your next line: "They copied F-35 paint"

:D

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Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.

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FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don't count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24

also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.

http://www.relatably.com/m/img/wtf-memes/d0374478557798edfc964afd006512de457207f70346d8e2ef524a98afd73578.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b4/88/d6/b488d6ff6365820b4b92ce99f890fc11.jpg

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This day will be remembered!

Now your next line: "They copied F-35 paint"

:D

I would but your teammate byoin is more likely to say that

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WTF is that.......??? :confused: Just a simulator a future J-10 variant? :confused: :confused:

https://i.imgur.com/WjIDdGz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CZvcTtf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KY4ipKN.jpg

the aircraft on the screen has a delta and two engines, maybe its a j-20 simulator

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China to buy new model Russian helicopters including the Ansat (built by muslims). chosen over z-11 and other types

https://lenta.ru/news/2016/11/01/ansat/

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Kazan_Ansat-U_38_yellow_(8587496380).jpg

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Radar plate showed in J-20 maquette doesn't occuy all possible space, maybe a rotating arrangement like the Gripen E one?

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:D

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-20/J20_125.jpg
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-20/J20_124.jpg
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-20/J20_123.jpg
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-20/J20_127.jpg
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-20/J20_126.jpg
http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af8/My-Military-Photos/PRC/Air/J-20/J20_128.jpg

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Radar plate showed in J-20 maquette doesn't occuy all possible space, maybe a rotating arrangement like the Gripen E one?

Thats what I was thinking. Reminded me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0JvBtbCURA

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Thats what I was thinking. Reminded me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0JvBtbCURA

I don't think that's a mockup of the J-20. Nose geometry looks different and the J-20 doesn't have an EOS on the nose.
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I don't think that's a mockup of the J-20. Nose geometry looks different and the J-20 doesn't have an EOS on the nose.

True. The dimensions are too small. The location of the IRST is odd. This is probably a generic systems display. Showing the IRST input on the the displays etc. Though some of the components could be headed for future J-10 (J-10D?) and JF-17.

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True. The dimensions are too small. The location of the IRST is odd. This is probably a generic systems display. Showing the IRST input on the the displays etc. Though some of the components could be headed for future J-10 (J-10D?) and JF-17.

That's my thinking too. Not the first time we've seen one of these generic mock ups in Zhuhai.
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reminds me of this picture which was before the j-20 came out.
everyone began overanalyziing it

http://www.hitechweb.genezis.eu/chinese_5th_generation_fighter.files/chinese_5th_generation_fighter_simulator.jpg