Official List of Aircraft Price thread

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Post all the price (and associated arguments) of aircraft (no debating which aircraft is better, its all about money here). Prices per plane In order: EUROFIGHTER: Kuwait - 325 million USD ( It includes the planes, their support, crew training and infrastructure investments in Kuwait, though not the weapons to be used on the combat aircraft.) http://www.wsj.com/articles/finmeccanica-signs-contract-with-kuwait-for-sale-of-combat-jets-1459863077 RAFALE: qatar - 312 million USD (includes MBDA missiles and training for 136 pilots and other staff) india - 216 million EUR or 225 million USD (includes weapons and spares) egypt - 233 million USD (includes missiles) http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/2016/03/29/dassault-rafale-france-qatar-fighter-jet/82377564/ http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/India-France-ink-%E2%82%AC7.87-billion-agreement-for-36-Rafales/article14995775.ece http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/strike/2015/02/15/france-relief-rafale-sale-to-egypt/23353207/ F-35: japan - 400 million USD (F-35A version, unsure what else it includes) s.Korea - 177 million USD (F-35A version, 274 AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, 530 Joint Directed Attack Munitions (JDAM), 154 AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles and 530 “Bunker Buster” BLU-109 2000LB Penetrators equipped with JDA) Israel - 137 million USD (F-35A version, second batch This includes the costs of setting up local firms to assemble the aircraft and manufacture spare parts) US - Under 100 million USD For A version http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/f-35-cost-drops-to-below-100-million-per-plane-for-first-time/article/2613855 http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/japan-receives-1st-f-35-joint-strike-fighter/ http://www.defensenews.com/articles/korea-f-35-program-coming-together https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II_Israeli_procurement SUPER HORNET: Kuwait - 250 million USD (The deal includes weapons, spare parts and other support.) US - 100 million USD Australia - 100 million USD (does not say what is included) http://www.defensenews.com/articles/kuwait-qatar-fighter-jet-deals-move-forward-likely-putting-boeing-fighter-jet-production-into-the-2020s http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2015/05/06/boeing-kuwait-super-hornet-strike-fighter-fa-18-dassault-rafale-eurofighter-typhoon-navy-state/70906542/ https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/36/367348_-os-australia-us-military-boeing-wins-1-32-billion.html GRIPEN E: Brasil - 130 million USD (does not say what is included) https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/brazil-finalises-468bn-gripen-ng-deal-416586/ SU-35: China - 83 million USD (does not say what is included) http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/russias-su-35-super-flanker-mystery-fighter-no-more-04969/ GRIPEN C: Thailand - 64 million USD () http://www.xairforces.net/newsd.asp?newsid=320&newst=3#.WGMBhNJ97IU MiG-29 New: 2016 Egypt - 46 million USD () https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/egypt-buy-46-mig-29-combat-aircraft-2-billion-deal/ http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/176188/egyptian-mig_29s-to-have-latest-irst,-ew-suite.html F-15: 2016 Qatar - 293 million USD (includes training, ground support, weapons support, spares,etc) 2010 Saudi Arabia - 350 million USD (includes a sht ton of stuff, hundreds of missiles, bombs, etc) http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/saudi-arabia-f-15sa-aircraft
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these prices are not really comparable. unless there is followup done at year 5 to 10 to see how much it actually cost. less than 8 years old 8 C-17 need expensive support. and those C-17 I doubt has carried any max load to rough field performance.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newsus-approves-700m-sale-of-c-17-logistics-services-and-equipment-to-qatar-5695090 US approves $700m sale of C-17 logistics services and equipment to Qatar As part of a separate $81m sale, Qatar will receive spare C-17 engines
using airpower to fight even low intensity war is getting expensive.
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i think its a whole lot more fruitful to look at relations between various competitors in the same competition, like the brazil deal, to get apples to apples Base: gripen E 5.4 billion F-18E 7.5 billion -39% more expensive rafale 8.2 billion -52% more expensive

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i think its a whole lot more fruitful to look at relations between various competitors in the same competition, like the brazil deal, to get apples to apples Base: gripen E 5.4 billion F-18E 7.5 billion -39% more expensive rafale 8.2 billion -52% more expensive
This whole conversation is useless without actual facts to support these claims, like the links to source documents. Throwing out numbers like the above and what Y-20 has done is literally pointless!
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This whole conversation is useless without actual facts to support these claims, like the links to source documents. Throwing out numbers like the above and what Y-20 has done is literally pointless!
You can easily google up the prices, don't be lazy..
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i think its a whole lot more fruitful to look at relations between various competitors in the same competition, like the brazil deal, to get apples to apples Base: gripen E 5.4 billion F-18E 7.5 billion -39% more expensive rafale 8.2 billion -52% more expensive
Another apples-to-apples comparison would be Danish claim to purchase 27 F-35As for the price of 38 Super Hornets which would make the F-35A ~41% more expensive than the F/A-18E/F.. That would mean you could get two Gripen-Es for the price of one F-35A, a claim that makes a lot of sense to me..

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You can easily google up the prices, don't be lazy..
No, that is not lazy, it is common sense. Your desire to not post the actual source docs when they are available is not a surprise...
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No, that is not lazy, it is common sense. Your desire to not post the actual source docs when they are available is not a surprise...
I don't require dozens of links to sources, I know these latest figures almost by heart - any utter BS would be recognized immediately.. it's not my problem that you need to ck out every single one of them. Use google if you have doubts and don't bother others with that, it's that simple..
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Dear Bacon, what you could do is to enhance the info by 1. adding F-15K/SG to the list... 2. adding total number of airframes procured within each particular deal - price-wise it could be quite different to buy 12 jets or 50. Could do that, too, but I am unable to edit your msg.. thanks..
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i think its a whole lot more fruitful to look at relations between various competitors in the same competition, like the brazil deal, to get apples to apples Base: gripen E 5.4 billion F-18E 7.5 billion -39% more expensive rafale 8.2 billion -52% more expensive
yes. But these arms deals are so complicated. US arms sales to the Gulf are usual contingent on the Gulf continuing to price oil in USD and use US treasuries as their main reserve medium. Its all priced in.
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Australia - 83 million USD (does not say what is included)
This is a deflated figure, actually.. The first 24 Super Hornets have been valued at A$3.0 billion ($2.36 billion) which alone makes it to over $98mil a pop.. Later a series of smaller contracts has been signed to support the main deal (totaling over $285mil for TOFT, brief/debrief station, AMCs, F414 mods, centreline pylons, peculiar ancilliary equipment, spares, logistics, tech docs plus two AEA-18G Growler upgrade kits). That already makes $110.2mil per aircraft [two of them Growlers], without weapons, training, etc..

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I don't require dozens of links to sources, I know these latest figures almost by heart - any utter BS would be recognized immediately.. it's not my problem that you need to ck out every single one of them. Use google if you have doubts and don't bother others with that, it's that simple..
That is bunk... It is not about BS, it is about factual clarity, provide the facts from the start and improve the credibility of the thread and the forum in general. Again, it doesn't surprise me that you take this stance as we have had this conversation previously. You would rather throw out unsubstantiated claims and then require other people to prove you wrong than provide the numbers/facts/sources to begin with.
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That is bunk... It is not about BS, it is about factual clarity, provide the facts from the start and improve the credibility of the thread and the forum in general. Again, it doesn't surprise me that you take this stance as we have had this conversation previously. You would rather throw out unsubstantiated claims and then require other people to prove you wrong than provide the numbers/facts/sources to begin with.
Do I care what you think? Nope... No one is forcing you to read my posts..

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Ozair is right. Links to the sources are very important.
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ok links are added (but they numbers were easy to be found, if you simply googled them you lazy guys). but that said, i wont add any new aircraft and numbers unless you provide links. other wise all I see are a bunch of people whining because their favorite aircraft is not matching with the numbers they want. as for the comment about the years.. most of these deals were within the last 5 years. they are not that far apart.
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How do you come to the $83mil figure for Australian Super Hornet? Your link says A$6 billion ($4.64 bil) for 24 F/A-18F Block II
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Spoiler alert! All deals with different customers include varying equipment, support, conditions, training packages. You cannot extrapolate a sales package from one nation to another (even within the same contest as MMRCA showed). Even the SH sale to Australia wasn't simply a contract for 24 block II aircraft, look at the FMS proposal. Exercise in futility this is. Looking at what what the producers sell via contract to national services gives a vague comparison. I.E: Rafale contracts to AdlA, F-35 to parter nations, Gripen to Sweden, allow for some rough comparisons, with caveats. Not suprising, even those are difficult to compare as different services negotiate contracts with national producers based on a myriad of stipulations (GFE, separate contracts for maintenance, ancillary equipment, on and on) The U.S. PAUC method, giving weapon system cost is probably the most representative of what it costs a nation to develop, and field a new aircraft. It does not do a great job of representing cost to a foreign user and favors those with a large order book and long production run, however.
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Spoiler alert! All deals with different customers include varying equipment, support, conditions, training packages. You cannot extrapolate a sales package from one nation to another (even within the same contest as MMRCA showed). Even the SH sale to Australia wasn't simply a contract for 24 block II aircraft, look at the FMS proposal. Exercise in futility this is. Looking at what what the producers sell via contract to national services gives a vague comparison. I.E: Rafale contracts to AdlA, F-35 to parter nations, Gripen to Sweden, allow for some rough comparisons, with caveats. Not suprising, even those are difficult to compare as different services negotiate contracts with national producers based on a myriad of stipulations (GFE, separate contracts for maintenance, ancillary equipment, on and on) The U.S. PAUC method, giving weapon system cost is probably the most representative of what it costs a nation to develop, and field a new aircraft. It does not do a great job of representing cost to a foreign user and favors those with a large order book and long production run, however.
but there are some people who are so sure certain aircraft must be cheaper than another one
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F-35: japan - 400 million USD (F-35A version, unsure what else it includes)
Try $238 million (in 2012 dollars). As with all DSCA figures, this is a conservative estimate, actual contract figures will be lower. DSCA News Release
WASHINGTON, May 1, 2012 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress April 30 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Japan for a possible sale of an initial four F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Conventional Take-Off and Landing (CTOL) aircraft with an option to purchase an additional 38 F-35 CTOL aircraft. The estimated cost is $10 billion. All aircraft will be configured with the Pratt and Whitney F-135 engines, and 5 spare Pratt and Whitney F-135 engines. Other Aircraft Equipment includes: Electronic Warfare Systems, Command, Control, Communication, Computers and Intelligence/Communication, Navigational and Identifications (C4I/CNI), Autonomic Logistics Global Support System (ALGS), Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS), Flight Mission Trainer, Weapons Employment Capability, and other Subsystems, Features, and Capabilities, F-35 unique infrared flares, reprogramming center, and F-35 Performance Based Logistics. Also included: software development/integration, flight test instrumentation, aircraft ferry and tanker support, spare and repair parts, support equipment, tools and test equipment, technical data and publications, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $10 billion.
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Spoiler alert! All deals with different customers include varying equipment, support, conditions, training packages.
Not too mention, ahem, marketing costs...
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For comparison, here the prices for Russian hardware ordered by the VKS: upgrades 53x MiG-31BM at 514th ARZ NAZ Sokol for 30.0 bil RUB ($487.0 mil) - unit price $9.2 mil 5x Su-25SM at 121nd ARZ for 1.75 bil RUB ($28.4 mil) - unit price $5.7 mil new-built: 16x MiG-29SMT (Izd. 9.19R) at RSK MIG for 16.0 bil RUB ($259.7 mil) - unit price $16.2 mil 7x Su-30SM for Russian Navy at OAO Irkut for 13.1 bil RUB ($212.7 mil) - unit price $30.4 mil 50x Su-35S at KnAAZ for 60.8 bil RUB ($987.0 mil) - unit price $19.7 mil