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By: 16th July 2004 at 18:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I do remember that a Silkworm hitted a local shoppingmall in Kuwait, but off course this is an anti-shipping missile and not a SRBM, did they fire any in the first place. If so what types?
By: 16th July 2004 at 18:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-i think missile thread is where this has to be ...
By: 16th July 2004 at 18:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-what i recall regarding the silkworm was that the pac-3 systems didnt deal with it... most thought that it would just fall somewhere in the water..atleast that was what the Centcom version was. and u are right it was no SRBM...and i am not sure that the pac-3's and pac-2's were responsible for the space of the water
By: 16th July 2004 at 18:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-BS!
One Scud fell into the sea near southern Oil Refineries, one fell (the anti-ship )near Souq Al Sharq (The mall) , it missed the target.. The Al Bayan Palace by few kilometres tho.
By: 16th July 2004 at 18:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-the mall wasnt a scud it was an anti ship missile. i dont think any scud was launched during the war they were AS1's i beleive
By: 16th July 2004 at 19:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-i know..but what about the one which fell near Refineries in Mid-Southern Kuwait?
By: 16th July 2004 at 19:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-i can positivly say that there werent any scuds lauched by iraq...as far as the report goes the US army will definately know more about justifying that claim than me....also not the entire kuwait was under the pac-3 control system kuwaiti patriot missile batteries were also imployed...
By: 16th July 2004 at 19:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-No Scuds were fired, the only SRBM that were fired that I recall were those Al-Samoud 2 missiles. The ones that were going to be destructed under UN supervision....
By: 16th July 2004 at 19:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-i dont think any as2 was fired either although cant confirm that...i think the as1 was fired.
By: 16th July 2004 at 19:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I do remember that a Silkworm hitted a local shoppingmall in Kuwait, but off course this is an anti-shipping missile and not a SRBM, did they fire any in the first place. If so what types?
That is the new and very dangerous ASM (Anti Shopping Missle)... would be very helpful to blokes that get spent out of every nickel by their wives...
By: 16th July 2004 at 20:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-i dont think many people were killed by it if any.
By: 17th July 2004 at 00:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Just a wording trick. It defeated all ballistic missiles fired... of course it didn't intercept any non ballistic missiles, but then you can't blame the system for not being able to intercept targets it wasn't designed for.The real question is should there have been a CAP with fighters and AWACS looking for cruise type missiles? If Saddam really did have WMDs then a Silkworm... say with an added range of say 800km (For subsonic missiles it is just a case of lengthening the fuselage and putting in more fuel) plus the usual large wahead of, say Anthrax, or Sarin, give it a GPS guidance system and land it in the middle of a city... or set it so that it sprays WMDs over every city it flys over... they could launch hundreds at a time..
It's a good thing we don't have to worry about that "if" any more, isn't it?
(I think the amount of Sarin that a silkworm-type missile can deliver is relatively small, especially if it's dispersed over a large area. Other than a public scare thing, I doubt it would have any actual effect.)
By: 17th July 2004 at 09:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-For subsonic missiles it is just a case of lengthening the fuselage and putting in more fuel)
No it is not that easy to modify a weapon system. The structure has not been thought for that and shall be modifid. A longer missile will have different caracteristics frequencies that can interact with the controls. You can have flutter and other aerodynamics problems you did not have. The constrainsts inside the structure will change and a longer missile will need structure renforcing or could break in flight. Moreover, aerodynamic coefficient would change and thus you would have to modify the control system ...
If it was so easy, every country would be capable of creating a whole range of cruise missile ...
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By: alexz33 - 16th July 2004 at 16:28
WASHINGTON [MENL] -- The U.S. Defense Department maintains that the Patriot missile defense system intercepted all Iraqi short-range missiles fired toward Kuwait during the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
Missile Defense Agency director Lt.Gen. Ronald Kadish told the House Strategic Forces subcommittee recently that the PAC-3 and the earlier PAC-2 intercepted all of the Iraqi missiles that threatened to strike Kuwaiti or U.S. installations in the sheikdom during the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
"Based on the available data, the Patriot system, including PAC-3, successfully intercepted all threatening short-range ballistic missiles during Operation Iraqi Freedom last year," Kadish said.
The assertion by the agency director was the first time that a senior Pentagon official reported a 100 percent interception rate of the Patriot system. About a dozen Iraqi short-range missiles were fired toward Kuwait in late March and early April 2003.