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Another image of Naval LCA just moments before landing and snagging the 3rd arresting wire

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Is Kaveri effectively dead in the water now? This opinion (in my view) says it is going nowhere...

https://swarajyamag.com/defence/why-the-kaveri-engine-programme-is-fail…

... and that India has underestimated the expertise needed to make military jet engines.

Is there any point in India dreaming of locally designed engines if India is not prepared to take the steps needed to realise such a dream? Clearly this project has been mishandled badly enough for Tejas Mk1, Mk1A, MWF, TEDBF all needing to use foreign-designed engines.  To be realistic, the same will happen with AMCA.

Can't see the point of all this thrashing around to get no result (no useful engine) and no capability of making a useful engine in the future. Perhaps India should forget about  Kaveri and spend another 20 years learning and experimenting before trying again.

 

 

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The first ever take-off from an aircraft carrier, for the LCA Navy Mk1

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And a sort of confirmation from the Navy, that the LCA Navy Mk1 has proven niche technologies that will now pave the way for the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter.

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With this feat, the indigenously developed niche technologies specific to deck based fighter operations have been proven, which will now pave the way to develop and manufacture the Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter for the #IndianNavy.

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The Indian air force is likely to insist on a clause for development of an indigenous aero engine when it clears a multi-billion dollar programme to go ahead with the next generation Advanced Multirole Combat Aircraft (AMCA) by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

While I appreciate forces would prefer a reliable source for equipment (supplies that cannot be interrupted for political reasons) I find it unusual that an air force should specify the source of supplies.

Sources said that while the first two squadrons of the AMCA will be powered by a variant of American origin GE 414 engine, the project will be clearing in the coming months on the condition that a parallel process be initiated by DRDO to develop a aero engine plant with foreign collaboration. “A clear path towards developing our own aero engine is essential and should be done along the AMCA programme which is being supported. If needed, foreign collaboration from western nations that have advanced technologies can be sought,” senior officials told ET.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/iaf-to-add-clause-on-…

It is not a question of India seeking foreign help if reeded. It is precisely because India is not capable of producing a suitable aero engine itself that foreign help is absolutely required. USA, France, UK will have spent hundreds of billions  over the decades getting to the technologic position they are in. And India thinks a few hundred million will buy enough knowhow for Indian engineers to make Kaveri work? More like a few billion, I am afraid to say - if such a ToT is allowed at all by the foreign government concerned.

One alternative would be to get a team of the best, most knowlegeable, foreign programme managers and engineers with experience in the field to take over the programme. Will still costs billions to acquire the minimum knowledge to build engines but it might be possible to develop Indian engines in 10 years or so.

Read more at:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/iaf-to-add-clause-on-local-engines-for-amca-fighters/articleshow/73162616.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

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LCA Navy Mk1 prototype NP-2 on INS Vikramaditya

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The second LCA Navy prototype, NP-1 has also landed on INS Vikramaditya and conducted multiple bolters, landings and take-offs along with hot refueling on the carrier.

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#NLCA NP1 has also completed arrested landing and take off in sucession now from #INSVikramaditya. It was piloted by Dax -- Capt Shivnath Dahiya.

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Confirmations now come in that Dax made another landing on #INSVikramaditya flying NP1, minutes after his first touchdown. As this tweet flies out, hot refueling on ship is on for more sorties. Some action there folks!!

https://twitter.com/writetake/status/1217020700067688448
[quote]NP1 took off around 1.30 pm & did over shoots for practice followed by trap. Hot refuelled took off & did one more trap. Hot refuelled & returned to base. So 2 arrested landings & 2 ski-jump takeoffs from #INSVikramaditya in a single sortie.

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Two more images of NP-1 as it approached INS Vikramaditya for landing

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Frenetic pace of testing. In just 4 days, 18 cycles of landing, hot refueling and taking off from the carrier, between prototypes NP-1 and NP-2. Looks like a whole lot of data is going to be available for DRDO and NFTC to pore over after the carrier compatibility trials are over.

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Confirmations now that #NLCA completed 6 cycles today taking the tally to 18 in last 4 days. Today NP1 & NP2 did 3 landings & take-offs each from #INSVikramaditya, continuing their stellar performances. 4 videos combined here for visual treat.