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By: - 8th April 2019 at 16:22 Permalink - Edited 15th April 2019 at 20:15
http://forums.airforce.ru/matchast/4...zdadim-vmeste/
"23-11" - 3
MiG-23S - 59
MiG-23 - 98
MiG-23M - 1353
MiG-23MS - 196 or 179
MiG-23MF - 184 or 278
MiG-23M+MiG-23MS+MiG-23MF=1810
MiG-23P - 321
MiG-23ML - 750
MiG-23MLA - 1100
MiG-23MLD - ?
Znamya Truda Plant (Moscow) - 4,278 pieces
Plant Irkutsk - 769 pieces
By: - 8th April 2019 at 17:52 Permalink - Edited 8th April 2019 at 19:19
http://forums.airforce.ru/matchast/4...zdadim-vmeste/"23-11" - 3
MiG-23S - 59
MiG-23 - 98
MiG-23M - 1350
MiG-23MS - 196
MiG-23MF - 184
MiG-23P - 321
MiG-23ML - 750
MiG-23MLA - 1100
MiG-23MLD - ?Znamya Truda Plant (Moscow) - 4,278 pieces
Plant Irkutsk - 769 pieces
Thank you so much
do you think mig-23M production was completed by 1980 ? and did the ML production start in 1978
sorry I could not read the link due to unable to understand russian
nevertheless i deeply appreciate your help
By: - 8th April 2019 at 19:27 Permalink
MiG-23M (ed. "23-11M"), produced from 1973 to 1976
According to book Polish authors, was issued 750 MiG-23ML(23-12),of which-third went on exports.In turn,the plant Banner of Labor officially indicates that it produced 1100 aircraft modification MLA(23-12A) in 1977-1983 years, and separates them from ML.
By: - 8th April 2019 at 19:32 Permalink
MiG-23M (ed. "23-11M"), produced from 1973 to 1976
According to book Polish authors, was issued 750 MiG-23ML(23-12),of which-third went on exports.In turn,the plant Banner of Labor officially indicates that it produced 1100 aircraft modification MLA(23-12A) in 1977-1983 years, and separates them from ML.
wonderful
you helped me with the mig-29 thread as well i remember
very grateful
you are a great resource for this forum
By: - 15th April 2019 at 17:13 Permalink
MiG-23M (ed. "23-11M"), produced from 1973 to 1976
According to book Polish authors, was issued 750 MiG-23ML(23-12),of which-third went on exports.In turn,the plant Banner of Labor officially indicates that it produced 1100 aircraft modification MLA(23-12A) in 1977-1983 years, and separates them from ML.
I have heard from 1975-1980 mig-23 was produced at a rate of 400 aircraft per yr is that accurate ?
I have the book " Military balance of 1980-1981" which lists as 600 mig-23 with PVO and 1000 mig-23M with VVS , not sure how accurate these numbers are
can you verify this ? thanks again
By: - 15th April 2019 at 17:49 Permalink - Edited 15th April 2019 at 20:34
4778 MiG-23 : (1985 - 1969) = 227 pieces per year the average rate of production
Production of the MiG-23UB in Irkutsk reached 100 pieces per year. Total released 1008 MiG-23UB
623 MiG-23B/BN
In Moscow in the period 1968 - 1984 4256 pieces were built
MiG-23 and MiG-27 produced more than 6000 pieces
By: - 15th April 2019 at 19:43 Permalink
The plant "Banner of Labor" in Moscow could produce at least 160 pieces per year
and that is just one plant
and they were produced in the 70s in the Irkutsk plant as well ?
By: - 15th April 2019 at 21:04 Permalink - Edited 15th April 2019 at 21:07
It would be interesting to compare MiG-23 production with that of the F-4 jet. I believe the US was pumping out hundreds of F-4s per year in the 1960s during the Vietnam war.
By: - 15th April 2019 at 21:17 Permalink
Irkutsk 1008 MiG-23UB and 764 MiG-27
By: - 16th April 2019 at 01:13 Permalink
Paralay I think we in the west underestimated the threat of mig-23 in the early 80s , it seems like that almost 1800 of just the fighter version of mig-23M/ML/MLA were operational by 1985 ! Is that fair to say ?
By: - 16th April 2019 at 13:08 Permalink - Edited 16th April 2019 at 13:24
Related to the specific TVD in Soviet times just a given number of regiments can be operated in an limited battle space at the same time, whatever is at hand in the whole SU and its other TVDs. The following link shows it.
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/D...%20%202014.pdf
Every MiG came with a price tag and is a burden for your economy and in the end the SU did crumble.
By: - 16th April 2019 at 17:51 Permalink
One thousand nine hundred eighty two:
Frontline aviation: 25 Su-25, 400 Su-24, 500 MiG-27, 1200 MiG-23 various modifications, 150 MiG-25, 630 MiG-21, 100 Su-17, 150 Su-7, 190 Yak-28;
Air defense: 100 MiG-31, 250 MiG-25, 800 MiG-23, 900 Su-15, 100 Tu-128, 200 Yak-28, 50 Su-9/-11
Combat effectiveness of the MiG-23 in comparison with foreign fighters of the fourth generation
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By: - 18th April 2019 at 13:02 Permalink - Edited 18th April 2019 at 13:03
The value of a weapon-system is never the sum of its specifics. Just a mental exercise.
By: - 19th April 2019 at 14:36 Permalink - Edited 19th April 2019 at 14:39
One thousand nine hundred eighty two:
Frontline aviation: 25 Su-25, 400 Su-24, 500 MiG-27, 1200 MiG-23 various modifications, 150 MiG-25, 630 MiG-21, 100 Su-17, 150 Su-7, 190 Yak-28;
Air defense: 100 MiG-31, 250 MiG-25, 800 MiG-23, 900 Su-15, 100 Tu-128, 200 Yak-28, 50 Su-9/-11
The quote you gave is from Flight international 1982 sept , so by late 1982 it was estimated by Flight magazine that 800 mig-23 were with PVO and 1200 various versions of mig-23 with VVS
if we want to get an estimate of fighter version of Mig-23 is it safe to assume that 1300 in total between VVS and PVO of the mig-23s fighter versions in service( by late 1982) were M,MF, ML ,P versions ?
thanks for your patience
By: - 19th April 2019 at 19:49 Permalink - Edited 19th April 2019 at 19:49
The value of a weapon-system is never the sum of its specifics. Just a mental exercise.
In this case, I can safely say that one MiG-23 will win all NATO aircraft :)
By: - 23rd April 2019 at 11:15 Permalink - Edited 23rd April 2019 at 11:19
http://forums.airforce.ru/matchast/4...zdadim-vmeste/"23-11" - 3
MiG-23S - 59
MiG-23 - 98
MiG-23M - 1353
MiG-23MS - 196 or 179
MiG-23MF - 184 or 278MiG-23M+MiG-23MS+MiG-23MF=1810
MiG-23P - 321
MiG-23ML - 750
MiG-23MLA - 1100
MiG-23MLD - ?Znamya Truda Plant (Moscow) - 4,278 pieces
Plant Irkutsk - 769 pieces
I'm sorry to bother you again but I have having trouble with these figures
lets add them one final time, I have tried to summarize your previous posts
1353 MiG-23M+ 179 MiG-23MS+ 278 MiG-23MF=1810
321 Mig-23P +750 Mig-23ML + 1100 Mig-23MLA
= 3,981 these are all fighter versions from Znamya Truda plant
Production of the MiG-23UB in Irkutsk reached 100 pieces per year. Total released 1008 MiG-23UB
623 MiG-23B/BN ( I'm assuming also at Irkutsk plant?)
So total Mig-23 of all variants ( not including Mig-27 ) was = 5,612 from years 1969-1984
Does this seem correct to you ?
By: - 23rd April 2019 at 18:04 Permalink
Production of the MiG-23B / BN established in Moscow, the plant "Banner of Labor" ("Знамя Труда")
By: - 23rd April 2019 at 19:04 Permalink
Production of the MiG-23B / BN established in Moscow, the plant "Banner of Labor" ("Знамя Труда")
thanks
the rest of the numbers in post # 17 look ok to you
By: - 23rd April 2019 at 19:38 Permalink
MiG-23B - 24 (1971)
MiG-23BN Part of the aircraft is made of MiG-23M
MiG-23BM (1973)
MiG-23BK (1974)
MiG-27 (1974)
MiG-27K 200 (1975, mass production 1977 - 1982, Irkutsk)
MiG-27M 150 (1976, mass production 1978 - 1983, Irkutsk)
modernization MiG-27 in MiG-27M 500 (1982 - 1985, Ulan-Ude)
MiG-27ML 200 (export option MiG-27M, 1982, Nasik, India, 1986 - 1994)
By: - 8th August 2019 at 17:42 Permalink - Edited 8th August 2019 at 17:48
MiG-23M (ed. "23-11M"), produced from 1973 to 1976
According to book Polish authors, was issued 750 MiG-23ML(23-12),of which-third went on exports.In turn,the plant Banner of Labor officially indicates that it produced 1100 aircraft modification MLA(23-12A) in 1977-1983 years, and separates them from ML.
hello
which Polish book are you quoting this from ? can you please give the name and author
thank you
also the MLA (23-12A) version of which 1100 were produced are in addition to the 750 ML (23-12) ? or ML was modified to MLA ?
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By: nastle - 8th April 2019 at 14:24
I was hoping someone here can help with production figures for Mig-23
I have the following information do not know if correct
Mig-23M/ MF ... 1000 examples , prod stopped 1978
mig-23MS ................300 examples prod stopped 1978
mig-23P ...................500 examples prod stopped 1981
Mig-23ML/MLA .........1,100 examples prod from 1978-1983
Can anyone verify this to be accurate and if so please give your source
Thank you and much appreciated