By: MadRat
- 6th October 2015 at 16:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Iraq numbers floating around:
10 ea. L-159A single seaters - $ 5.8 million each
2 ea. L-159T1 two seaters - $ 8.55 million each
1 ea. spare F124 engine $ 0.87 million
4 Advanced Instructor Pilot Level training spots $ 5.58 million
8 additional Pilot Level training spots $ 10.27 million
12 Maintenance support training spots - Advanced $ 3.36 million
24 Maintenance support training spots - Standard $ 5.84 million
Weapon procurements $ 30.28 million
Drop tanks - $ 0.23 million
OEM Spare Parts $ 10.9 million
Ground Support $ equipment 5.8 million
Flight support equipment $ 2.78 million
Logistical Support $ 13.38 million
Ferry flights performed by Czech pilots to Iraq $ 888k
By: rumcajs
- 5th November 2015 at 18:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
here they are in Balad.
Yeah, first two Alcas were delivered by pilots of 212. Tactical squadron... twoseater planes will be delivered as the last, because some Iraqi pilots are still trained in the Czechlands...
By: rumcajs
- 5th November 2015 at 20:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Jesus, Trident Juncture 2015 is damn stuff for Czech air force. Hot news inform that Czech Mi-171ŠM has crashed 15 km of Zaragoza away today. Five Czech soldiers were injured, one pilot and four operators of very elite 601. Group of Special Forces
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By: Anonymous
- 6th November 2015 at 09:40Permalink- Edited 20th April 2023 at 10:37
By: rumcajs
- 6th December 2015 at 11:09Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Britons want to block delivery of rest L-159 due to RWR module (they again and again and again), same module that is integrated in F-16 fot Iraq... Iraq wants L-159 only with RWR...
By: swerve
- 6th December 2015 at 21:26Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
According to the DSCA notification of the sale to Iraq, the F-16IQs have the AN/ALR-93 RWR, a Northrop Grumman product. Online reports say that the L-159 has a Sky Guardian RWR, originally a BAE product but now Selex.
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By: Anonymous
- 7th December 2015 at 08:08Permalink- Edited 20th April 2023 at 10:37
But two a/c are already there, isn't it too late to object? Besides Sky Guardian isn't precisely state-of-the-art nowadays.
By: sheytanelkebir
- 7th December 2015 at 09:54Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
perhaps the motivation is sour grapes over the iraqis not buying Hawks... or an attempt to sell "newer" RWR module to Iraq to replace the removed one (and thus bagging a small sale). Seems rather petty to be honest.
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By: MadRat - 6th October 2015 at 16:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Iraq numbers floating around:
10 ea. L-159A single seaters - $ 5.8 million each
2 ea. L-159T1 two seaters - $ 8.55 million each
1 ea. spare F124 engine $ 0.87 million
4 Advanced Instructor Pilot Level training spots $ 5.58 million
8 additional Pilot Level training spots $ 10.27 million
12 Maintenance support training spots - Advanced $ 3.36 million
24 Maintenance support training spots - Standard $ 5.84 million
Weapon procurements $ 30.28 million
Drop tanks - $ 0.23 million
OEM Spare Parts $ 10.9 million
Ground Support $ equipment 5.8 million
Flight support equipment $ 2.78 million
Logistical Support $ 13.38 million
Ferry flights performed by Czech pilots to Iraq $ 888k
Final price $ 166.178M
The deal still has to clear US political hurdles.
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By: rumcajs - 18th October 2015 at 11:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Delivery of all L-159s has been delayed for weeks due to US bureaucracy...
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By: sheytanelkebir - 4th November 2015 at 07:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Apparently l159 supposed to arrive in Iraq today....
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By: sheytanelkebir - 4th November 2015 at 15:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
here they are in Plovdiv Bulgaria during ferry flight...
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By: MSphere - 4th November 2015 at 16:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: PhantomII - 4th November 2015 at 21:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I look forward to the footage of the first GBU-12 one of them puts on (hopefully) a large number of IS fighters...
Also, I hope they hear the aircraft right before the bomb detonates...
A beautiful airplane in my opinion.
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By: sheytanelkebir - 5th November 2015 at 10:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
here they are in Balad.
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By: Tango III - 5th November 2015 at 18:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: rumcajs - 5th November 2015 at 18:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yeah, first two Alcas were delivered by pilots of 212. Tactical squadron... twoseater planes will be delivered as the last, because some Iraqi pilots are still trained in the Czechlands...
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By: rumcajs - 5th November 2015 at 18:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
During Trident Juncture 2015 exercise in Spain few days ago one pilot of L-159 "shot down" a vulture with wing... and has landed save..
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By: PhantomII - 5th November 2015 at 20:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Where was that photo taken? Any idea?
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By: rumcajs - 5th November 2015 at 20:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Zaragoza air base...
http://www.armadninoviny.cz/letoun-l-159-alca-se-na-cviceni-trident-juncture-2015-stretl-s-ptakem.html
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By: rumcajs - 5th November 2015 at 20:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Jesus, Trident Juncture 2015 is damn stuff for Czech air force. Hot news inform that Czech Mi-171ŠM has crashed 15 km of Zaragoza away today. Five Czech soldiers were injured, one pilot and four operators of very elite 601. Group of Special Forces
By: Anonymous - 6th November 2015 at 09:40 Permalink - Edited 20th April 2023 at 10:37
Hope there are no fatalities.
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By: rumcajs - 6th November 2015 at 13:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
fortunately just light injuries... all soldiers are ok.
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By: rumcajs - 23rd November 2015 at 20:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Video:
http://zpravy.aktualne.cz/domaci/srazka-se-supem/r~ae6d7b2e920211e5a405002590604f2e/
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By: rumcajs - 6th December 2015 at 11:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Britons want to block delivery of rest L-159 due to RWR module (they again and again and again), same module that is integrated in F-16 fot Iraq... Iraq wants L-159 only with RWR...
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By: swerve - 6th December 2015 at 21:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
According to the DSCA notification of the sale to Iraq, the F-16IQs have the AN/ALR-93 RWR, a Northrop Grumman product. Online reports say that the L-159 has a Sky Guardian RWR, originally a BAE product but now Selex.
By: Anonymous - 7th December 2015 at 08:08 Permalink - Edited 20th April 2023 at 10:37
But two a/c are already there, isn't it too late to object? Besides Sky Guardian isn't precisely state-of-the-art nowadays.
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By: sheytanelkebir - 7th December 2015 at 09:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
perhaps the motivation is sour grapes over the iraqis not buying Hawks... or an attempt to sell "newer" RWR module to Iraq to replace the removed one (and thus bagging a small sale). Seems rather petty to be honest.