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F-35B with external loads...

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The RDA L-39 with AAMs was a temporary trial configuration. It was not undertaken.

Czechoslovak Air Force L-39ZA with R-3S was commont practice for stand by actions against slow flying targets since the end of the 1970s and during the 1980s. L-39MS/L-59 even can carry R-60...

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I believe that last shot is an Argie C-130B (or perhaps C-130E?) outfitted with MER's on the two outboard wing hardpoints taken around the time of the Falklands War. Whether or not they bombed the Brits with this setup I'm not sure of though.

The reports at the time suggested that the Argentines were rolling bombs off the ramps of C-130 on shipping attacks.

It would appear that the underwing racks was the actual method.

Attack on British Wye

http://www.naval-history.net/F46weeknineTF.htm

....FAA Grupo 1 Hercules made the only apparent attempt to cut British supply lines. On Saturday a single C-130 dropped eight bombs on "British Wye" to the north of South Georgia. One hit, but bounced into the sea without exploding and the tanker continued her lonely refuelling duties.

Attack on the crude oil tanker Hercules. one of the attacking aircraft was believed to have been a C-130.

http://www.admiraltylawguide.com/supct/AmeradaHess.htm

'By June 8, 1982, after a stop in Brazil, the Hercules was in international waters about 600 nautical miles from Argentina and 500 miles from the Falklands; she was outside the "war zones" designated by Britain and Argentina. At 12:15 Greenwich mean time, the ship's master made a routine report by radio to Argentine officials, providing the ship's [488 U.S. 428, 432] name, international call sign, registry, position, course, speed, and voyage description. About 45 minutes later, an Argentine military aircraft began to circle the Hercules. The ship's master repeated his earlier message by radio to Argentine officials, who acknowledged receiving it. Six minutes later, without provocation, another Argentine military plane began to bomb the Hercules; the master immediately hoisted a white flag. A second bombing soon followed, and a third attack came about two hours later, when an Argentine jet struck the ship with an air-to-surface rocket. Disabled but not destroyed, the Hercules reversed course and sailed to Rio de Janeiro, the nearest safe port. At Rio de Janeiro, respondent United Carriers determined that the ship had suffered extensive deck and hull damage, and that an undetonated bomb remained lodged in her No. 2 tank. After an investigation by the Brazilian Navy, United Carriers decided that it would be too hazardous to remove the undetonated bomb, and on July 20, 1982, the Hercules was scuttled 250 miles off the Brazilian coast.'

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Czechoslovak Air Force L-39ZA with R-3S was commont practice for stand by actions against slow flying targets since the end of the 1970s and during the 1980s. L-39MS/L-59 even can carry R-60...

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6779/16961hk9.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/706/c13st7.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4673/c16fx4.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7222/c17sm6.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8725/1165888el4.jpg

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Do you have other pics than that of 0006 trial aircraft? I do ask that because during testing it was find out that the R-3S could be used in a small part of the flying envelope only to hit something with a propability of success. Like staying below the target in the aft cone f.e. Against military aircraft it was practical useless compared to a gun-pod or rocket-pod. To man it with a highly trained pilot was a waste of resources, when the later R-60 was an option at least. ;)

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Do you have other pics than that of 0006 trial aircraft? I do ask that because during testing it was find out that the R-3S could be used in a small part of the flying envelope only to hit something with a propability of success. Like staying below the target in the aft cone f.e. Against military aircraft it was practical useless compared to a gun-pod or rocket-pod. To man it with a highly trained pilot was a waste of resources, when the later R-60 was an option at least. ;)

0006 is not trial aircraft but one from six Czechoslovak, later one from four Czech Air force L-39MS of the 1. LŠP (1st training regiment) of the 1. letka (1st training squadron) from Přerov AB... You can see marks of the regiment and squadron on it. Well problems were and are with firing envelope in GŠ-23 of L-39ZA cannon case, I don´t know anything about problems with missiles, just Albatroses were used as stand by aircrafts against "slow flying targets" so cannon or unguided rocket were much more cheap than missiles against sport aircrafts or helicopters...

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Difference between the L-39 and L-59

What is the difference between the L-39 and L-59?

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I believe the L-59 had a bigger motor among other improvements.

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0006 is not trial aircraft but one from six Czechoslovak, later one from four Czech Air force L-39MS of the 1. LŠP (1st training regiment) of the 1. letka (1st training squadron) from Přerov AB... You can see marks of the regiment and squadron on it. Well problems were and are with firing envelope in GŠ-23 of L-39ZA cannon case, I don´t know anything about problems with missiles, just Albatroses were used as stand by aircrafts against "slow flying targets" so cannon or unguided rocket were much more cheap than missiles against sport aircrafts or helicopters...

L-39MS
The Aero L-39MS Super Albatros is a second generation military trainer aircraft developed from the firm's earlier L-39. Compared to its predecessor, it featured a strengthened fuselage, longer nose, a vastly updated cockpit, and a more powerful (21.6 kN (4,850 lbf)) Lotarev DV-2 engine, allowing operation at higher weights and speeds (max speed 872 km/h (542 mph)).[9] First flight on 30 September 1996. It was later designated as the Aero L-59 .

You do know that, but most readers here may confuse that with the L-39s from Warsaw Pact times. ;)

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L-39MS
The Aero L-39MS Super Albatros is a second generation military trainer aircraft developed from the firm's earlier L-39. Compared to its predecessor, it featured a strengthened fuselage, longer nose, a vastly updated cockpit, and a more powerful (21.6 kN (4,850 lbf)) Lotarev DV-2 engine, allowing operation at higher weights and speeds (max speed 872 km/h (542 mph)).[9] First flight on 30 September 1996. It was later designated as the Aero L-59 .

You do know that, but most readers here may confuse that with the L-39s from Warsaw Pact times. ;)

only correction L-39MS is not Super Albatros, but Albatros and only for Czechoslovak Air Force, versions for export were signed as L-59. Super Albatros is L-139 but sometimes you can see L-59 Super Albatros and L-139 Albatros 2000. The first L-39MS´ flight on 1. October 1989. ZVL DV-2 was made in Slovakia - Povážské strojárně company (but designed by Lotarev)

L-39MS cockpit

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S-24 240mm!!
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not impresive but rare and fixed
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Damn, now THAT'S a gun pod!

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I'm digging all this Warsaw Pact stuff. That gun pod on the Hind is pretty neat though I wonder how accurate it is. I believe it's a GUV weapon pod perhaps? Anyone know for sure?

To change the subject a bit does anyone have good pictures of Lockheed's Shooting Star/Starfire series? F-80's, T-33's, or F-94's with stuff?

tbzz??

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Spanish Harrier, note the new JDAM

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Mi-24 Hind-D with AA-8 Missiles

What is the story of the Mi-24 Hind-D with AA-8 Missiles??

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What is the story of the Mi-24 Hind-D with AA-8 Missiles??

I don´t know, but I guess its a technicians´ joke maybe

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From http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/mi-24.php

Mi-24W 'Hind-E': improved version of 'Hind-D' gunship first reported in early 1980s; equipped with 12 AT-6 'Spiral' radio-guided ATMs mounted on stub wings together with AA-8 'Aphid' air-to-air missiles for self-defence

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Cheetah C at the range.

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AA-8 Aphid on Mi-25 Hinds

Those technicians went to a lot of trouble to make these AA-8 Aphids look not only flight worthy but launch capable. It looks like they have modified the AT-3 Swatter / Falanga missiles tracks to not only support the AA-8, but have a slide on / off ability.The AA-8 does not require the seeker to be nitrogen cooled. So all one needs is a stable rail to hold the missile during flight and an electric rocket motor ignition to launch it. To hit one's target, one would need a seeker-head monitor to determine if the missile has acquired the target. The images do not show if they are monitoring the seeker-head. I'd say, based on what is shown that then could put up into a hover and launch the missile. Fully air-to-air capable is another matter - someone else will have to provide those details!!

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