INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction

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I chanced upon this article during a search and I think this article is probably the very latest on the INS Vikramaditya and I thought a new thread would justify it as the carrier is finally going to start trails and already undergoing mooring trails. Moreover I did not see this article posted anywhere.

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Aircraft carrier: incarnation of a dream
12.01.11
Text: Korabel, November 16, 2010, No. 90 (6876), Oleg Korotkov
Collage by O. Perov, Korabel

Refit of INS Vikramaditya enters a new phase

Shipbuilders of Sevmash are well aware of aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya (former aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Gorshkov) which is being reconditioned for Indian Navy. That is natural – they have spent much trouble on the carrier to achieve current impressive appearance.

Today, she is an enormous ship with displacement of 45 000 tons, as high as a twenty-storey building, and as long as three football grounds. About 2 600 rooms are located inside the ship on 22 levels; they are battle stations, crew quarters, cabins... Hangar size is also impressive – it is 130 meters long. Somewhat 2 000 crewmembers including pilots, technicians and other air wing personnel can serve in this floating city equipped with "airport" and workshops, "residential buildings" and mess-rooms, hospitals and recreational sites. And the time when all that comes true is near at hand. According to general modernization schedule, INS Vikramaditya is supposed to be delivered to Indian customers in December 2012. People who are in charge for this strategic Russian-Indian contract are sure it will be so.

...Speaking a "military-accented" language, floating base Severnaya is a battle staff of the ship retrofitting. All basic decisions are made here; it is the place where director general, his deputy, chief engineer, and deliverer-in-charge hold briefings with engineers, shipwrights, workers... Current and prospect objectives are assigned and summarized here. In a word, that's a real headquarters.

Few days ago I had a chance to meet with production director No. 4 (military technical cooperation) Sergei Novoselov, his deputy Georgy Zhukov, and deliverer-in-charge Igor Leonov in floating base Severnaya. The project's top managers wanted to share more than good news with Korabel; an important construction phase – electrification of INS Vikramaditya – had been finished. And take note, it happened one month ahead of time specified in the general schedule!

The ship has come alive

KORABEL: All right, everyone knows that without electricity any equipment is just a lifeless metal heap. So now, when the carrier is electrified, can we say that the ship has come alive?

Sergei NOVOSELOV: Sure. It's hard to overestimate this event. Perhaps, its significance can be compared only with a ship's launching.

Igor LEONOV: To accomplish this task, we have to do colossal number of works, including electrical safety operations. It is obvious as there are over 1 000 electric boards in the ship; almost two hundreds of them are high-voltage ones.

Georgy ZHUKOV: Now all four central switchboards are electrified, so we can begin to start mechanisms which are over 1 500. We're going to "open" the first hundred of them in the nearest days. In other words, the phase of adjustment works starts.

Everyone's at work

KORABEL: It has been a long-awaited moment, as Admiral Gorshkov has been staying at Sevmash for over ten years...

Sergei NOVOSELOV: That's right, but the main work started only in the fall of 2007. Before that we had disassembled equipment and cleaned the hull, rooms and everything. And when Nikolai Kalistratov was appointed Director General of Sevmash three years ago, the construction suddenly entered its active phase. The shipyard has gained a considerable momentum since that time. We've done so much throughout these three years... Under auspices of I. Ponomarev, department deputy director of Rosoboronexport and A. Alsufiev, Sevmash's chief engineer, our experts fruitfully participated in Russian-Indian talks on changes in repair and retrofitting costs. As for now, all "i's" have been dotted; Indian partners pay for all works without delays and this makes possible to purchase all needed equipment and materials in time. New organizational structure and general schedule have been approved. All work clusters have been determined; each one is headed by deliverer-in-charge. Number of direct workers has been significantly grown – today, they are almost four thousands including electricians from SPO Arktika.

Georgy ZHUKOV: Everyone's at work in the ship, in sheds, in engineering offices. All are involved – counterparties, manufacturer's designers and technologists, experts of Nevskoye Design Bureau, Production Quality Control Dept, military representatives…

KORABEL: Input of electric power is a significant event. Could you name any other milestones?

Igor LEONOV: They're not too many. We have enlarged flight deck sponsons; replaced forebody; extended stern part; assembled propeller rudder system and grounding gears; shaped a ski-ramp for horizontal takeoffs and arrested landings. In the falls of 2008 the carrier left the shipyard's basin; that was a unique operation – there were only few inches between the ship's boards and caisson walls. We finished loading of large-size equipment in 2009. To do that, we made 540 access holes in the hull of Vikramaditya, and then rewelded them. Works on the bulkhead were successfully completed in 2010 – arc welders and riveters of 42nd shed did show their worth. What utmost powers were given to assemble ventilation and air conditioning system meant for tropical climate (high temperature and humidity)! Fans and coolers have been already built in; air ducts are ready in 60 per cent of compartments. Totally, we have done 80 per cent of pipeworks. In January 2010 the ship was ready for electric installation works; as a consequence, 1 890 km of new cables have been laid while only 500 remained.

Georgy ZHUKOV: Another complex operation was alignment of four shaftlines. We have finished assembling of turbine-geared propulsion units, turbo-generators, diesels, and eight boilers (each one weights 40 tons and is as high as a 2-storey building).

All those works were done in extreme conditions, since the ship was afloat. Engineers from Scientific & Technological Dept helped us and developed special methods, equipment, and accessories.

Floating airfield

KORABEL: Ships of this kind are often called floating airfields, but aircraft system is a totally new experience for Sevmash shipbuilders, right?

Igor LEONOV: Nevertheless, we've already mounted three arresters, two aircraft elevators, takeoff retaining devices for aircraft tests (designed by Corporation MiG especially for INS Vikramaditya), and numerous ammunition holds. Assembling of aircraft fuel, nitrogen, and oxygen storage and supply system is another technically complicated problem in terms of safety; however, it was successfully done as well.

Let's go ahead. Electronic warfare systems include over 100 various antennas and 60 battle control stations. On November 30 we completed mounting of 600 electronic warfare devices, and electricians from Arktika have already started to connect them.

KORABEL: We've slipped to future prospects of Sevmash. What else has to be done in the nearest time?

Georgy ZHUKOV: We're going to finish fire tests by January 15, 2011. This will make possible to wash hull systems by conditioning oils. And then everything will be done step by step: beginning of mooring trials in February-March 2011 which is entirely in accordance with general schedule, and sea trials will start in November 2011 in the White Sea. They will continue in 2012 in the Barents Sea. Air wing will be tested there, as well as operability of 'ship-aircraft' system.

Igor LEONOV: We will conduct dock inspection of the ship's hull in winter 2011-2012 in Murmansk. INS Vikramaditya will head for India in December 2012. Nonetheless, Sevmash will provide a one-year long warranty service after delivery of the carrier and then a 19-year long post-warranty service.

Full contact

KORABEL: Shipwrights of Sevmash have been working closely with Indian military observers through the whole period of construction…

Sergei NOVOSELOV: Those guys are really top-sawyers! We've shaped not only working relations but friendly ties with them. Recently they started to take part in work planning – three times a week Indian officers meet with Director General of Sevmash and top managers of the shipyard. On Tuesdays we go around the ship with the head of the observation group and resolve technical issues by the way. So, we're in full contact.

KORABEL: When the crew of Vikramaditya arrives in Severodvinsk?

Igor LEONOV: Very soon, early in 2011. We expect up to 1 400 officers and enlisted to come at different dates. But they will observe mooring trials first.

We can build a new one

KORABEL: Let's get back to production. In 2010 the works were conducted under a new so-called weekly planning system.

Sergei NOVOSELOV: We must give credit to the president of United Shipbuilding Corporation Roman Trotsenko who recommended to apply weekly planning. That contributed much to acceleration of the production process. Look, about 1 500 operational posts headed by foremen are set every week. Money reward system is closely connected to the weekly planning – you've done the job well, you get a good bonus. Such system has a plenty of advantages. Among them are permanent monitoring over all current works and preparation for subsequent ones, labor movement, financial flow, people's motivation to complete work in time, final-result orientation. Roman Trotsenko set regular interagency meetings at the shipyard with mandatory inspection of the ship. Weekly reports we sent to United Shipbuilding Corporation also pep up. On the initiative of R. Trotsenko and N. Kalistratov, all who work overtime have free meals. Many interagency problems are resolved thanks to United Shipbuilding Corporation, Ministry of Industry and Trade, Rosoboronexport, and Russian Navy. Let's not forget that this Russian-Indian project is permanently controlled by Russian government.

KORABEL: If Sevmash is tasked to build a new aircraft carrier, would you manage to?

Sergei NOVOSELOV: Indeed, I'm sure of it! Through recent years an effective administrative structure has been shaped in Sevmash. Now the yard is capable to negotiate construction, repair, and modernization contracts for large surface ships – primarily, aircraft carriers – independently. We've established cooperation with hundreds of domestic and foreign factories, institutes, designing organizations, training centers etc. But undoubtedly, the main thing is invaluable experience acquired during the years of work on INS Vikramaditya. It is very important to keep this experience.

KORABEL: John Steinbeck, an American writer and Nobel laureate wrote that a ship was something like incarnation of a man's dream. Do your dreams come true?

Sergei NOVOSELOV: You see, shipwrights of Sevmash have been always specialized in submarines. And then came Admiral Gorshkov, a giantlike cruiser which was supposed to become an aircraft carrier. That was just what we called a dream, because we had to master new shipbuilding technologies and address large-scale production issues. And I think we do it well. Sevmash have been managing so far. Moreover, as a matter of fact we build a new carrier. So, our dreams come true.


http://www.rusnavy.com/nowadays/concept/views/vikramadityaimplementation/

India, Russia settle aircraft carrier deal
by Staff Writers
Moscow (UPI) Dec 8, 2009

Ending a protracted logjam over the pricing of a naval aircraft carrier purchase, Russia and India have reached agreement on a key defense deal.

The issue came up in high-level talks between Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and visiting Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh earlier this week.

Details of the agreement were not made public but India's Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao confirmed the breakthrough to reporters after the summit.

"Both the leaders discussed the issue and noted excellent progress on negotiations on price and technical issues which have been brought to a successful conclusion," she was quoted as saying to Indian and Russian media.

No details were given about the carrier Admiral Gorshkov's final price but reports said the final cost could be more than $2 billion.

The Admiral Gorshkov was gifted to India -- free of charge -- in 2004 in line with a contract signed the same year.

The 44,570-ton aircraft carrier, now rechristened to INS Vikramaditya, was set to be delivered in 2008, but the process has been delayed because of a renegotiation over the refitting prices.

The initial contract had earmarked $964 million for the vessel's refurbishment and $536 million for a complement 16 MiG29K fighter aircraft fitted on board.

Four years later, however, Russia claimed it underestimated the cost of the project, adding a surcharge of $1.2 billion and delaying delivery of the navy ship until 2012.

India rebuffed the price hike, calling it exorbitant. Yet it has since then agreed to pay $800 million for the refitting project, Indian media reported.

The squabble over the Soviet-made carrier had come to symbolize the strains in relations between the two Cold War allies.

The Admiral Gorshkov is to join the Indian navy and replace the INS Viraat, now 50 years old.

There was no public announcement as to the vessel's new delivery deadline.

The breakthrough came during a three-day trip Singh is currently undertaking in Moscow, during which both countries signed a raft of agreements, including one on cooperation in civilian atomic energy and another on arms trade.

Both Russia and India are members of the so-called BRIC club of emerging economic giants, and New Delhi has been keen to win Moscow's support in bolstering its civilian nuclear energy program.

Two agreements signed on arms focused on bilateral arms trade between 2011 and 2020, and on a deal to service Russian-made arms sold to India, according to an announcement issued from the Kremlin.

Details of the agreements were not disclosed.


http://www.spacewar.com/reports/India_Russia_settle_aircraft_carrier_deal_999.html
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How would the final price of this ship compare with another 45,000 ton aircraft carrier? Say.....Charles de Gaul?

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How would the final price of this ship compare with another 45,000 ton aircraft carrier? Say.....Charles de Gaul?

CdG - 3.7$ billion.

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Now if we also had a good indication of what funding the Chinese have poured into Varyag and what the Russian paid to build (and maybe also to repair/refit) Gorshkov and Kuznetsov, repectively, we'ld have an interesting comparison.

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How would the final price of this ship compare with another 45,000 ton aircraft carrier? Say.....Charles de Gaul?

That would be a rather poor comparison to make since CdG was new and nuclear powered.

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I linked that interview some time ago on the Indian Navy forum. It probably gives the most detailed description of the actual work being done on the ship yet.

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That would be a rather poor comparison to make since CdG was new and nuclear powered.
And WAAY more capable. But what Im really looking for, is just how much this fiasco will cost the Indian Navy once/if it is finaly delivered.

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And WAAY more capable. But what Im really looking for, is just how much this fiasco will cost the Indian Navy once/if it is finaly delivered.

The only thing so far you can conclude is that cost went up. There is nothing else to base the conclusion of 'fiasco' on, not in a practical operational sense. You'ld have to wait and see how she does when actially in service.

Let's not forget CdG has not exactly been without problems ....
- The ship was launched in May 1994 and commissioned in September 2000, following sea trials which began in January 1999. As a result of trials the landing deck has been lengthened by 4.4m to enable the E-2C to land and clear the deck quickly.The 5 million francs for the extension was 0.025% of the total budget for Charles de Gaulle project.
- On 28 February 2000, a nuclear reactor trial triggered the combustion of additional isolation elements, producing a smoke incident.
- During the night of 9 November 2000, in the Western Atlantic while en route toward Norfolk, Virginia, the port propeller broke and the ship had to return to Toulon to replace the faulty unit. The investigations that followed showed similar structural faults in the other propeller and in the spare propellers: bubbles in the one-piece copper-aluminium alloy propellers near the centre. The fault was blamed on the supplier, Atlantic Industries, which had already gone bankrupt. To make matters worse, all documents relating to the design and fabrication of the propellers had been lost in a fire. As a temporary solution, the less advanced spare propellers of Clemenceau and Foch were used, limiting the maximum speed to 24 knots (44 km/h) instead of the contractual 27 knots (50 km/h).
- The carrier was due to enter service in December 2000, but, following the breakage of a propeller blade during long-distance trials, this was delayed to April 2001. Charles de Gaulle went back to sea with two older propellers and sailed 25.2 knots (47 km/h) on her trials.
- Between July and October, Charles de Gaulle had to be refitted once more due to abnormal noises, as loud as 100 dB, near the starboard propeller, which had rendered the aft part of the ship uninhabitable.
- In September 2007, Charles de Gaulle began a refit which included overhaul and refuelling of the nuclear propulsion system and installing a new SYTEX command and control system with Syracuse III satellite communications system. The refit was completed and the carrier returned to the French Navy in December 2008.

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^ There have also been problems more recently with CdG requiring return to port IIRC.

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And WAAY more capable. But what Im really looking for, is just how much this fiasco will cost the Indian Navy once/if it is finaly delivered.

In hindsight yes, but at the time of the offer it appeared a cheap way to get a carrier capable of CATOBAR operations whilst awaiting their own ADS to be built. Given the original expectations on costs and delivery schedule then it probably appeared to be value for money.

Comparing costs to CdG is a pointless exercise, the CdG design wasn't for sale due to its propulsion and mis 2000's prices for a new build CdG would be astronomic (otherwise the french would have ordered a 2nd ship rather than get bogged down in its own PA2 requirement !). Plus it would have to be a new build and Indian was already working on its own carrier project so couldn't justify building another new carrier design overseas !

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Comparing costs to CdG is a pointless exercise, the CdG design wasn't for sale due to its propulsion and mis 2000's prices for a new build CdG would be astronomic (otherwise the french would have ordered a 2nd ship rather than get bogged down in its own PA2 requirement !).

A follow-on CdG was priced at just under 2 billion euros in 2003 (1.83-1.99 billion depending on equipment fit). Not astronomic by any standard, though unaffordable for the French budget at the time.

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that sounds very cheap. Are you sure that was for a complete ship?

About the same time, the actual cost per ton of Cavour was about the same, but she's a simpler ship with cheaper propulsion.

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any up-to-date pics?

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So, the big news is that they can now turn on the lights aboard, and that they can tie her up to an out-of-the-way pier so she is not in the way while everybody takes a 2 (or 12) month vacation.

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So, the big news is that they can now turn on the lights aboard, and that they can tie her up to an out-of-the-way pier so she is not in the way while everybody takes a 2 (or 12) month vacation.

What a usefull and informative post :rolleyes:

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A follow-on CdG was priced at just under 2 billion euros in 2003 (1.83-1.99 billion depending on equipment fit). Not astronomic by any standard, though unaffordable for the French budget at the time.

What was the price of the 1st CDG when it was completed?

It is little difficult to believe that French will be able to built a 2nd unit at a lesser cost than the 1st unit. If that was clearly the case we would have been seeing the 2nd of the CDG in operation now. But that have not happened and they are now desperately on for a collaboration with the Brits with PA2. Am i wrong?

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So, the big news is that they can now turn on the lights aboard, and that they can tie her up to an out-of-the-way pier so she is not in the way while everybody takes a 2 (or 12) month vacation.

If anyone in the forum would have thought what any totally clue-less person would have thought about the entire process of electrification of a ship/carrier and the mooring trials. You cleared their doubts! ;)

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A second CdG wouldnt have the unfortunate power plant of the 1st would it? As I understand it, pretty much all her problems stem from it.

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What was the price of the 1st CDG when it was completed?

It is little difficult to believe that French will be able to built a 2nd unit at a lesser cost than the 1st unit. If that was clearly the case we would have been seeing the 2nd of the CDG in operation now. But that have not happened and they are now desperately on for a collaboration with the Brits with PA2. Am i wrong?


Yes, you're wrong.

The French withdrew from collaboration with the UK on PA2 a couple of years ago.

A second CdG could have been built more cheaply than the first, because of design work that would not need to be repeated, & because building of CdG was slowed down by political decisions, & that slowdown increased costs. Building a second straight off, no delays, would have been a lot cheaper.

The decision not to build a second was a mixture of cost & technical issues, IIRC. It wasn't because a second would not have been cheaper than the first.

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A second CdG wouldnt have the unfortunate power plant of the 1st would it? As I understand it, pretty much all her problems stem from it.

If they stayed with the nuclear option yes.....its the only reactor they would have had.

Had they decided to go conventional, with the original design, they have to find some bunkerage for ship propulsion plus, probably, step up their UNREP capacity. This would, of course, be in addition to the shore-side nuclear handling facilities they had to build up to support CDG-01.

Heads you lose, tails you don't win on that one.

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Found this article only today during a search....some specific data is there..

http://www.bz.ru/en/news*3,27.html

The press release 15 May 2006 года,
Baltiysky Zavod produced boilers for the Indian aircraft carrier

Baltiysky Zavod JSC fulfilled one of the largest machinebuilding contracts – a series of main marine boilers. These items were produced for the Indian aircraft carrier «Vikramaditya» (former «Admiral Gorshkov»).

«A contract for the production of nine marine boilers Baltiysky Zavod JSC has concluded with FSUE «North Machinebuilding Plant» in June 2004. The contract price amounts to approximate USD 20 mio.», - said Oleg Kostikov, Director of Economy of Baltiysky Zavod. «During 2006 our company will gain about USD 22 mio in connection with the machinebuilding contracts. Prediction for 2007 – no less than USD 25 mio», - added Oleg Kostikov.

The first boiler for the Indian aircraft carrier was manufactured in May 2005. It is assembled on the test bench and is used as a simulator. The crew has an opportunity to get practical training as regards repairs and maintenance. Later the boiler will be sent to India and subsequently installed in the crew training facility. The rest eight boilers will be installed on board the warship, which is modernized by FSUE «North Machinebuilding Plant», Severodvinsk.

Baltiysky Zavod has modernized boilers type КVG-3 – КVG-ЗD. Now they operate on diesel fuel instead of black oil. Owing to this modernization power plant performance increased. Boiler piping is produced from special corrosion-resistant steel, providing durability of equipment.

On the customer’s request Baltiysky Zavod used environmentally friendly asbestosfree insulation in the manufacture of marine boilers. A new insulation (mineral fiber) is ecologically harmless material.

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Today Baltiysky Zavod JSC is under a Joint Industrial Corporation umbrella. It is a leader in the North-West Region of Russia in production of marine and power equipment.

Machinebuilding shops of Baltiysky Zavod manufacture a wide range of machinery: propellers and propeller shafts, marine and industrial pipeline fittings, exhaust-gas boilers, steam separators, marine boilers, boiler units, stern tubes, steering gears, heat exchangers, etc.

Main customers of Baltiysky Zavod JSC are the leading domestic and foreign companies.
To the list of news

1) contract for the production of nine marine boilers Baltiysky Zavod JSC was concluded with FSUE «North Machinebuilding Plant» in June 2004
2) contract price amounts to approximate USD 20 million
3) The new boiler designation is КVG-ЗD, using diesel as fuel
4) The first boiler for the Indian aircraft carrier was manufactured in May 2005. It is assembled on the test bench and is used as a simulator.
5) The crew has an opportunity to get practical training as regards repairs and maintenance. Later the boiler will be sent to India and subsequently installed in the crew training facility.
6) The rest eight boilers will be installed on board the warship