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well, the VSR question is still being debated. There are a number of mysterious antennaes around the bridge superstructure that is prompting speculation, and especially the two solid looking protrusions (one under the on the side of the ship which were first thought to be vents... but on closer inspection have been thought to be antennae for EW purposes or maybe even meter wave radars.

That said, whether a VSR is present on the ship or not would not have really been a radical departure from 052D or not (considering 052D has the UHF yagi type 517B as VSR, so technically the lack of an aft rotating VSR on 055 is a departure from 052D), it's the totality of the ship's new sensors and the way they've been positioned, how they're integrated with combat management, and command/control. And of course the much bigger hull and more VLS.

Going from a 7,000 ton DDG to an almost 13,000 ton DDG is quite a radical departure by any definition imo

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So the 055 is not as radical a departure from previous designs as some thought it was going to be, for example no 3D L band rotating long range radar. It looks to be in effect a scaled up 052D.

Well the 052C & 052D used that rotating Yagi antenna (VHF?) for long range search (including low RCS targets?). The 055 doesn't seem to have that installed. They might add it later-on or maybe something entirely new.

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@tonyget, that is a CGI, from a few years ago

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1: WS-10 powered J-15A catapult test. EMALS or stream?

2: JL-9G and J-15 formation

http://n.sinaimg.cn/mil/20170620/44hZ-fyhfxph4582555.gif

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YJ-18 052D hot launch:

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Carrier training -

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Carrier Liaoning in Hong Kong -

Escorted by DDG 175 (052D), DDG 152 (052C), FFG 538 (054A), Corvettes 596 & 597 (056)

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a neat picture

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Russians must be jealous a bit....:highly_amused:

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Russians must be jealous a bit....:highly_amused:

Why?

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Followed the adventures of Kuznetsov recently? Foir starters, Liaoning, to the best of my knowledge, is not permanently accompanied by a big ocean tug.

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To be fair, the Liaoning has yet to attempt a long distance journey or deployment like what the Kuznetsov has undertaken in the past. The possibility of Liaoning encountering issues on a long deployment similar in nature to what the Kuznetsov has done over the years cannot be ruled out.

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Oh come on Jinan, you of all people know better than that.

The Kuznetsov has not had propulsion issues (past the smog that everyone in the UK cries about) since basically the mid 90s, when it was a minor miracle it floated at all.
Russian navy sends the Chicker, or another suitable tug on any major deployment for support.

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Yes, birdstrike in one engine caused fire on one engine after flyover for the PLA parade.

Landed safely, pilot fine.

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first 901 (965, Hulun lake) commissioned, full displacement up to 50,000 tons

hull 2 under fitting out is visible along the pier behind 965.

https://i.imgur.com/6AjvdwZ.jpg

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@TR1: I know of no other navy that always sends along a fat ocean tug with its naval group.

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The 'Fat Ocean Tug' you refer to is there for a number of reasons, one important one being to support the deployed SSN which accompanies the 'Carrier Group. Submarine rescue is an issue which is taken very seriously in the Russian Navy. The reason 'no other navy' does this, is largely geographical. It is not an indication of the fragility of the ships deploying.