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An answer is already planned, in order to put the "gun" as close to US's "head" as they are putting it to Russia's. First, IRBMs close to Bering would have a brief flight covering the whole US Western half, from the nuclear sites to the East to California in the South. Second, Zirkon-loaded SSNs spread around US continental landmass, which would cover all the critical areas in the East Coast too without the need to bother any third country and are all but impossible to locate, given the size of the sea area involved.

As debated above. the problem is not fielding the Hull of a new DD. Its the propulsion. But keep in mind there is also the Funding. Why do you think Russia keep upgrading their existing fleet to the large point as they have done..

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As debated above. the problem is not fielding the Hull of a new DD. Its the propulsion. But keep in mind there is also the Funding. Why do you think Russia keep upgrading their existing fleet to the large point as they have done..

The destroyer would IMO be more of an ABM asset, in case they manage to get S-500 onboard, than a tool to bomb US with CMs. And most probably it will have nuclear propulsion, which is not a problem in Russia from what I know. They need to update Severnoye, that is where they plan to build them.

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Google on-line translate.

The readiness of the Admiral Nakhimov heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser undergoing repair and modernization at Sevmash is now 50%, the ship will be handed over to the Russian Navy at the end of 2022, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko told reporters on Monday.

Krivoruchko added that it would be “the most modern cruiser armed with high-precision long-range weapons”: the protection of the ship will be provided by the Fort-M and Pantsir-M air defense systems, as well as the powerful Pack-NK and Response anti-submarine weapons .

https://ria.ru/20190909/1558505440.html


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The destroyer would IMO be more of an ABM asset, in case they manage to get S-500 onboard, than a tool to bomb US with CMs. And most probably it will have nuclear propulsion, which is not a problem in Russia from what I know. They need to update Severnoye, that is where they plan to build them.

A NC propulsion still takes lot of time and $$$ to build, and believe it or not they have just as much if not higher maintenance cost vs Diesel engines.

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A NC propulsion still takes lot of time and $$$ to build, and believe it or not they have just as much if not higher maintenance cost vs Diesel engines.

NPPs are certainly not for third world navies I know, but VMF is not one of them and they already have a sizeable fleet of nuclear submarines and right now probably the best nuclear technology all around. New reactors are apparently not going to need substitution of the nuclear fuel almost for the entire life of the ship, so they associated costs will decrease notably.

Two 15kt LHD-esques to be laid down at Zaliv:

https://flotprom.ru/2019/%D0%93%D0%B...D0%B0%D0%B746/

Sounds definite, and like a bit of Mistral redux.

Good find, maybe we get to see these two sooner than expected (construction was scheduled for 2021)

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6592830

Now they say 15 kT and > 10 helos, before they said 15-20, which would be a lot for that displacement but still possible, if they use their new semi-catamaran hulls for the LHDs. It would be an ideal application.

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Finally got the image i was looking for (1st one), but not the link. Pr.22160 with Pr.20380

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Russian navy is already starved of funds and to make it worse, it is held hostage by the business/builders loby w.r.t what ships it gets and where it will be built. The main leech is Severnaya who have a monopoly over the ships and leeched upon the entire new surface ships that is planned for the navy - Pr.20380/20385, Pr.20386, Pr.22350 and they are already building/expanding their yard with eyes on the helicopter carriers/LHDs. (God save the recent info regarding Zaliv to built two LHDs)

Above we have two new designs but the capability speaks for itself. Below is a quick spec of the two from wiki (need not be accurate/plz correct wrong info)

22160 / 20380

Displacement - 1300+ / 1800+
Length - 94m / ~104.5m
Beam - 14m / 13m
Draught - 3.4m / 3.7m
Crew - 80 / 90

Propulsion - CODAG (2 x 16D49 + 2 x M70FR) / CODAD (4 x 16D49)
Speed - upto 30kts / upto 27kts
Range - 6,000 miles (or is it nmiles?) / 4,400 miles
Endurance - 60 days / 15 days

A navy starved of ocean going long endurance surface ships and friendly ports/bases cannot afford to have relatively costly ships that takes ages to built with just 15 days (or even 20days) endurance. This is when the 22160 design came in (sort of a divine intervention!) with a light displacement and an enormous (relatively) range of 6,000miles (or is it nmiles?) and 60 days endurance. And I firmly believe this is the ship that Russian Navy needs to built en mass in mulitple shipyards (with some modification) and have a naval presence around the globe to protect its vital interests unitll larger and heavy guys come online.

Pr.20380/20385 have outlived its utility and need to be dumped, it is nothing more than a cashcow for the yard it is building. Same case with 20386 - the earlier it is dumped, the better.

Few modification that I would like to have on 22160
- 8-cell VLS at foredeck (do away with aft container Kalibers)
- 32 x 2 cell VLS for 9m317/9m96/e2 (like that on the 20385 aft of hanger)
- Sonar at bow
- New mast (shown below on 20385)
- etc
Not like to be mouch more than 1,500t

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Russia's Only Aircraft Carrier Damaged by Fire

12-12-19, 09:37 Last update: 12:06

Update In a fire on Russia's only aircraft carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov, two people were injured today. Russian media report that.

The fire started during maintenance work in a harbor in northern Murmansk, probably it involved welding work in the first power station. According to TASS news agency, the fire raged on the upper deck and there was thick smoke. The fire was under control in the second part of the morning.

Various Russian media initially reported that at least three people had been injured. Later the Russian navy announced that it involved two wounded who had both received care. Several people were taken off the ship by rushed emergency services.

It is unclear how large the damage is.

(Translated by Google Translate.)

https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/gewonden-door-brand-op-ruslands-enige-vliegdekschip~a6ad192f/

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