By: keithnewsome
- 5th August 2009 at 21:57Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As they have not set the world on fire just yet ! lets wait a bit to guage reaction ? maybe these things always take time ..... evolution not revolution !
By: shed man
- 6th August 2009 at 19:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Forgot to mention!!
Hello everyone, I forgot to mention the making of the oil gauges ( Those 2 red bits sitting on the vice ) These were made from balsa wood cut & filed to shape ,using a borrowed gauge from the museum as pattern. I then heated up some plastic and pushed the balsa into it giving a nice shiny finish. Remove plastic ,stick photo on balsa and paint the rest . put plastic on and there you have it. It took 2 days to make those and for their size took longer than anything else. I have just sent Keith the final 8 pics of Phase one,
Phase2 is getting there in my garage
By: keithnewsome
- 6th August 2009 at 20:13Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The last batch of Ray's (shed man) photos of the construction of the Whirlwind project as is at the museum. I think Ray is going to start a new thread for the phase two part of the project, but I am sure he will still pop in here to answer any questions on the post within this thread.
By: shed man
- 7th August 2009 at 20:14Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Keith
The gunsight is made from parts of my wifes broken sewing machine ( I didn't break honest ) plus 3 castor cups ( Chair sits funny now ) The ventilator strip round the screen frame is made from electrical capping srtip, The rudder bar from various alloy and plywood. The pic in the polytunnel was taken at our open day in May, Ihope these pics have been of interest and maybe inspire someone else to make an exhibit on a shoestring
Once again thank you Keith for the publicity for the museum, not forgetting we need £15,000 to buy the land, I will try and do a thread on Phase 2 of the build ,which is in an advanced stage. Rest of cockpit.
By: keithnewsome
- 7th August 2009 at 20:23Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
shed man. Not a problem, always nice to be able to help in some small way. I will soon take you up on your offer of a visit to see whats going on now !
By: l.garey
- 25th August 2009 at 07:28Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I called in at the Fenland Museum last Saturday. Some interesting stuff, as already documented, and very friendly people to spend an hour with. I sat in the JP cockpit! The scrap yard at the back is a wonderland, but the salt water damage needs stopping asap. I was told that the props are from a B29, a Wellington and an He111 (and a B17?), but I am not a prop expert. Also another Lightning fin which I could not identify.
The Shackleton now has a neat white door on one end, and another planned for the other end, so you can go in and admire the original electronics inside.
No plans to add anything else to it, but there is the tail cone outside.
The Lightning has its belly tank alongside it, but it cannot be fitted as the bolts are missing. Anyone have a few spares?
One thing which did interest me was a turret which I photographed, with my guide's permission, for possible identification on the forum, unless anyone has seen it and can tell me what it is without a photo. If any of the Fenlanders are on the forum (shed man?), is it OK that I post a picture or two of this turret?
Laurence
By: shed man
- 25th August 2009 at 16:21Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Re Turret
The Turret was resident in a garden in Wisbech and when new owners bought the property they didn't want the turret and a builder chap very kindly saved it and gave it to the museum. We think it may be from a Whitley.
I thought it might be from an Anson. So come on you experts
By: l.garey
- 25th August 2009 at 16:34Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Turret
Here are the photos I took. Doesn't look like Anson or Whitley. The hole through which a gun may have fitted is in the middle as if it was mounted horizontally. It looks a bit like the He 111 but that should be more tapered.
Is it in fact of aviation origin? Doesn't quite look right somehow. Anyone come up with some ideas?
I like the flower growing out of the middle!
Laurence
By: hindenburg
- 26th August 2009 at 12:29Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Never seen a cupola like this before,been through all the books and the nearest I can get is a Bristol Bombay nose turret..I would say it`s quite early.The cut-out on top looks like it might be for a rotating service joint so i doubt it`s an upper turret.
By: l.garey
- 26th August 2009 at 12:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I looked at some Whitley photos and the nose turret looks to be square-bottomed to fit the upper opening in the nose, and with more ribs. This one is about 70 to 90 cm diameter (I did not have a meter with me!) and almost perfectly round at its base. The ribbing structure is very simple. What was in the broken part of the perspex I cannot say. There is a triangular plate along one rib, seen in the third of my photos.
Laurence
By: l.garey
- 2nd September 2009 at 07:55Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Whitely turret
As you see from the post above, Whitely_Project confirms it is Whitley, so congratulations to hindenburg! If you reply to him about its availability I would be grateful to be kept posted, out of interest. Thanks
By: shed man
- 2nd September 2009 at 19:08Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Re Turret
Hello folks, In regard to the gun turret being available . The Whitley project people need to contact the Fenland museum and ask if they would be willing to make it available. I will in the meantime pass on your request . The turret has I believe been moved back into the museum building as it was only outside due to my Whirlwind being moved in .
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By: keithnewsome - 5th August 2009 at 21:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As they have not set the world on fire just yet ! lets wait a bit to guage reaction ? maybe these things always take time ..... evolution not revolution !
Thanks Keith.
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By: RPSmith - 5th August 2009 at 22:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
looks good - thanks for posting. Yes, let's see some more.
Roger Smith.
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By: shed man - 6th August 2009 at 19:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Forgot to mention!!
Hello everyone, I forgot to mention the making of the oil gauges ( Those 2 red bits sitting on the vice ) These were made from balsa wood cut & filed to shape ,using a borrowed gauge from the museum as pattern. I then heated up some plastic and pushed the balsa into it giving a nice shiny finish. Remove plastic ,stick photo on balsa and paint the rest . put plastic on and there you have it. It took 2 days to make those and for their size took longer than anything else. I have just sent Keith the final 8 pics of Phase one,
Phase2 is getting there in my garage
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By: keithnewsome - 6th August 2009 at 20:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The last batch of Ray's (shed man) photos of the construction of the Whirlwind project as is at the museum. I think Ray is going to start a new thread for the phase two part of the project, but I am sure he will still pop in here to answer any questions on the post within this thread.
Keith.
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By: shed man - 7th August 2009 at 20:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Keith
The gunsight is made from parts of my wifes broken sewing machine ( I didn't break honest ) plus 3 castor cups ( Chair sits funny now ) The ventilator strip round the screen frame is made from electrical capping srtip, The rudder bar from various alloy and plywood. The pic in the polytunnel was taken at our open day in May, Ihope these pics have been of interest and maybe inspire someone else to make an exhibit on a shoestring
Once again thank you Keith for the publicity for the museum, not forgetting we need £15,000 to buy the land, I will try and do a thread on Phase 2 of the build ,which is in an advanced stage. Rest of cockpit.
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By: keithnewsome - 7th August 2009 at 20:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
shed man. Not a problem, always nice to be able to help in some small way. I will soon take you up on your offer of a visit to see whats going on now !
Thanks ... Keith.
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By: l.garey - 25th August 2009 at 07:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I called in at the Fenland Museum last Saturday. Some interesting stuff, as already documented, and very friendly people to spend an hour with. I sat in the JP cockpit! The scrap yard at the back is a wonderland, but the salt water damage needs stopping asap. I was told that the props are from a B29, a Wellington and an He111 (and a B17?), but I am not a prop expert. Also another Lightning fin which I could not identify.
The Shackleton now has a neat white door on one end, and another planned for the other end, so you can go in and admire the original electronics inside.
No plans to add anything else to it, but there is the tail cone outside.
The Lightning has its belly tank alongside it, but it cannot be fitted as the bolts are missing. Anyone have a few spares?
One thing which did interest me was a turret which I photographed, with my guide's permission, for possible identification on the forum, unless anyone has seen it and can tell me what it is without a photo. If any of the Fenlanders are on the forum (shed man?), is it OK that I post a picture or two of this turret?
Laurence
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By: shed man - 25th August 2009 at 16:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Re Turret
The Turret was resident in a garden in Wisbech and when new owners bought the property they didn't want the turret and a builder chap very kindly saved it and gave it to the museum. We think it may be from a Whitley.
I thought it might be from an Anson. So come on you experts
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By: l.garey - 25th August 2009 at 16:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Turret
Here are the photos I took. Doesn't look like Anson or Whitley. The hole through which a gun may have fitted is in the middle as if it was mounted horizontally. It looks a bit like the He 111 but that should be more tapered.
Is it in fact of aviation origin? Doesn't quite look right somehow. Anyone come up with some ideas?
I like the flower growing out of the middle!
Laurence
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By: hindenburg - 26th August 2009 at 12:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Never seen a cupola like this before,been through all the books and the nearest I can get is a Bristol Bombay nose turret..I would say it`s quite early.The cut-out on top looks like it might be for a rotating service joint so i doubt it`s an upper turret.
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By: l.garey - 26th August 2009 at 12:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I have looked though my books too, and again at the Bombay. Can't find anything that looks like it to me.
Laurence
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By: hindenburg - 26th August 2009 at 12:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Just found a picture of a Whitley nose turret with single 303 that looks very similar...what are the rough dimensions of the cupola ?
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By: hindenburg - 26th August 2009 at 12:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
assuming there is another bit of perspex missing ..are there any slots to poke a gun through ???
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By: l.garey - 26th August 2009 at 12:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I looked at some Whitley photos and the nose turret looks to be square-bottomed to fit the upper opening in the nose, and with more ribs. This one is about 70 to 90 cm diameter (I did not have a meter with me!) and almost perfectly round at its base. The ribbing structure is very simple. What was in the broken part of the perspex I cannot say. There is a triangular plate along one rib, seen in the third of my photos.
Laurence
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By: Whitley_Project - 2nd September 2009 at 07:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Guys
Yes it is Whitley!
Is it available at all?
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By: l.garey - 2nd September 2009 at 07:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Whitely turret
As you see from the post above, Whitely_Project confirms it is Whitley, so congratulations to hindenburg! If you reply to him about its availability I would be grateful to be kept posted, out of interest. Thanks
Laurence
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By: turretboy - 2nd September 2009 at 13:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Very nice find!!
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By: shed man - 2nd September 2009 at 19:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Re Turret
Hello folks, In regard to the gun turret being available . The Whitley project people need to contact the Fenland museum and ask if they would be willing to make it available. I will in the meantime pass on your request . The turret has I believe been moved back into the museum building as it was only outside due to my Whirlwind being moved in .
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By: shed man - 3rd September 2009 at 16:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Whitley Project Peoples
I have passed your request to the Fenland museum and will send you an E mail with any response I get . meanwhile I must get on with my Whirly bottom.
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By: Whitley_Project - 3rd September 2009 at 17:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks very much Ray
The best of luck with your bottom!