By: lankytim
- 14th January 2006 at 18:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Camlobe, OllieHolmes, LankyTim, Richard W etc, etc.... i can do no more except pledge my contribution and drive the truck for you. :D
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Driving the truck was my job :( I may not be an airframe fitter, but I can drive a truck! :)
Ill put my money where my mouth is, I dont know how much as her indoors does not regard a shackleton nose section as high on the household budget priorities.
By: H.M.S Vulture
- 14th January 2006 at 20:03Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
But the good news is the front perspex hasn't been butchered. It is awol, but this was done by either the RAF or the Cornish Avaition Society as spares for the gate-guard.
I've studied the photo below, and it does seem to be plated over.(Dave T)...[/QUOTE]
Hi
Unfortunatley the bomb aimers glass panel &frame was cut out by a disc cutter ,i think by the Cornish aviation society.
The hole left is not covered.
Let me know if there are any other questions about condition ,i have other photos.
I have some space in Devon untill a permenent home can be found.
By: lankytim
- 15th January 2006 at 01:07Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi
Unfortunatley the bomb aimers glass panel &frame was cut out by a disc cutter ,i think by the Cornish aviation society.
The hole left is not covered.
HMS Vulture
This shack is in a bit of a mess! Is all this damage repairable?
I may know of a place that could store/display this nose section, but it would be outside. Its a small museum in Shrops.
New
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By: wildcat
- 15th January 2006 at 11:21Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ollie and lankytim,
I have followed this thread with interest and whilst no-one can doubt your enthusiasm or desire. I do feel that before embarking on purchasing and conserving,preserving and restoring a cockpit or airframe, membership of a museum as a volunteer would be the ideal way forward. God knows there are many museums out there that would appreciate voluntary help.
There you will find equally enthusiastic (and knowledgeable) help, guidance and wisdom. Not forgetting a great bunch of people only too willing to share their passion for all things aeronautical. The social element is not to be forgotten either.
I went down this route many years ago and from that I gained a better awareness of the preservation movement, a great number of new friends and more importantly, a sense that I was helping in my own small way to preserve our proud aviation heritage.
As an aside, I am vice chair of Fleetwood Transport Festival in this our 22nd year and if any cockpiteers would like to bring their cockpit along for the day, please pm me. Sadly it falls on the RIAT Weekend (means I cant get there, and this may be true for others).
By: Whitley_Project
- 15th January 2006 at 12:52Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hey gang
I'm not sure where we stand at the moment trying to find a home for the shack cockpit, but I know someone who would like to buy it. His only concern is getting it moved but there are always ways round that! ;)
By: David Burke
- 15th January 2006 at 13:40Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Lankytim- the Shackleton nose is indeed a mess ! However one of the delights of preservation is you get something in poor condition and fix it to your best ability.
If it was complete and in good condition it wouldn't be in a scrapyard and it also wouldn't cost £1000!
By: lankytim
- 15th January 2006 at 13:51Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Lankytim- the Shackleton nose is indeed a mess ! However one of the delights of preservation is you get something in poor condition and fix it to your best ability.
If it was complete and in good condition it wouldn't be in a scrapyard and it also wouldn't cost £1000!
I agree on that point. Being new(ish) to the forum I dont know what kind of damage is repairable, and what would "write it off".
By: David Burke
- 15th January 2006 at 13:55Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not a problem Tim - look at the shape of a cockpit and where the damage is and that will determine what can be done with one. Complex curves are difficult - the Shackleton looks quite straighforward
By: Rocketeer
- 15th January 2006 at 13:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ok, time for an update.
A public thanks to all those who've PM'd and those who've offered pledges also.
Just when we had begun to think everyones a keyboard enthusiast, we've pleasantly been proved wrong. :D
Anyhow, the start of the working week tomorrow should dot the I's and cross the T's with the yard owner, and collection of Mr Rusty is pencilled in for the end of this month.
Two museums have kindly offered short term storage, and suffice to say one has been gladly accepted.
I'm not sure if the webmaster or anybody in 'management' is following all this (?), but wouldn't it be just peachy if Flypast's own forum became a news item in a few issue's time ?
By: lankytim
- 15th January 2006 at 14:04Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hey gang
I'm not sure where we stand at the moment trying to find a home for the shack cockpit, but I know someone who would like to buy it. His only concern is getting it moved but there are always ways round that! ;)
Elliott
Hi Elliott!
Is there now two people interested in purchasing the nose outright? We've gone from the shack being on deaths door to there being a queue to save it :D Things have moved along very quickly.
By: lankytim
- 15th January 2006 at 20:20Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Tim,
Your one of those who want a cockpit. Shouldn't you be asking yourself that question ?
Especially when the Shack was mentioned a while ago on this very thread when you and others wanted a cockpit.
Why not buy the Shackleton yourself ? You know where it is, and for how much. Just dont lay it flat on your truck, as it'll constitute a wide-load :eek:
Dave T, If a Canberra cockpit is too big for me then how would a Shackleton suitable? Also as I said in my previous posts, Im trying to gain information on cockpit ownership, costs and skills involved e.t.c rather than simply jumping in at the deep end buying and transporting the first shell Im offered.
What would people say if I took on a project such as this, not having the skills or the funds needed to make a good job of it?
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By: Camlobe - 13th January 2006 at 16:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Dave T. Advice appreciated. See your PM. I'll let people know how I get on. Wish me the best of British.
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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 13th January 2006 at 17:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Good luck fella!
Dave - tempted? You could park your Harrier in it....
TT
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By: HP57 - 13th January 2006 at 17:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Good luck, hope you succeed.
Cheers
Cees
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By: Rocketeer - 13th January 2006 at 20:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Good luck Camlobe, let us know how you get on ASAP as we need this saved now......
regards
TonyD :)
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By: lankytim - 14th January 2006 at 18:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Driving the truck was my job :( I may not be an airframe fitter, but I can drive a truck! :)
Ill put my money where my mouth is, I dont know how much as her indoors does not regard a shackleton nose section as high on the household budget priorities.
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By: Camlobe - 14th January 2006 at 19:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
lankytim, check your PM's.
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By: H.M.S Vulture - 14th January 2006 at 20:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
But the good news is the front perspex hasn't been butchered. It is awol, but this was done by either the RAF or the Cornish Avaition Society as spares for the gate-guard.
I've studied the photo below, and it does seem to be plated over.(Dave T)...[/QUOTE]
Hi
Unfortunatley the bomb aimers glass panel &frame was cut out by a disc cutter ,i think by the Cornish aviation society.
The hole left is not covered.
Let me know if there are any other questions about condition ,i have other photos.
I have some space in Devon untill a permenent home can be found.
HMS Vulture
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By: lankytim - 15th January 2006 at 01:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This shack is in a bit of a mess! Is all this damage repairable?
I may know of a place that could store/display this nose section, but it would be outside. Its a small museum in Shrops.
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By: wildcat - 15th January 2006 at 11:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ollie and lankytim,
I have followed this thread with interest and whilst no-one can doubt your enthusiasm or desire. I do feel that before embarking on purchasing and conserving,preserving and restoring a cockpit or airframe, membership of a museum as a volunteer would be the ideal way forward. God knows there are many museums out there that would appreciate voluntary help.
There you will find equally enthusiastic (and knowledgeable) help, guidance and wisdom. Not forgetting a great bunch of people only too willing to share their passion for all things aeronautical. The social element is not to be forgotten either.
I went down this route many years ago and from that I gained a better awareness of the preservation movement, a great number of new friends and more importantly, a sense that I was helping in my own small way to preserve our proud aviation heritage.
As an aside, I am vice chair of Fleetwood Transport Festival in this our 22nd year and if any cockpiteers would like to bring their cockpit along for the day, please pm me. Sadly it falls on the RIAT Weekend (means I cant get there, and this may be true for others).
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By: Whitley_Project - 15th January 2006 at 12:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hey gang
I'm not sure where we stand at the moment trying to find a home for the shack cockpit, but I know someone who would like to buy it. His only concern is getting it moved but there are always ways round that! ;)
Elliott
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By: David Burke - 15th January 2006 at 13:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
David - Snap it and send the story it in to the editorial!
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By: David Burke - 15th January 2006 at 13:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Lankytim- the Shackleton nose is indeed a mess ! However one of the delights of preservation is you get something in poor condition and fix it to your best ability.
If it was complete and in good condition it wouldn't be in a scrapyard and it also wouldn't cost £1000!
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By: lankytim - 15th January 2006 at 13:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I agree on that point. Being new(ish) to the forum I dont know what kind of damage is repairable, and what would "write it off".
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By: David Burke - 15th January 2006 at 13:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not a problem Tim - look at the shape of a cockpit and where the damage is and that will determine what can be done with one. Complex curves are difficult - the Shackleton looks quite straighforward
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By: Rocketeer - 15th January 2006 at 13:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This is great news!!!
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By: lankytim - 15th January 2006 at 14:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Elliott!
Is there now two people interested in purchasing the nose outright? We've gone from the shack being on deaths door to there being a queue to save it :D Things have moved along very quickly.
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By: David Burke - 15th January 2006 at 14:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Dave T has set the wheels in motion - I would continue on that path.
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By: lankytim - 15th January 2006 at 17:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
How come it wasnt bought 10 years ago then?
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By: XN923 - 15th January 2006 at 18:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Dave, thanks for PM. If you still need money I can probably add £100 to your total.
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By: lankytim - 15th January 2006 at 20:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Dave T, If a Canberra cockpit is too big for me then how would a Shackleton suitable? Also as I said in my previous posts, Im trying to gain information on cockpit ownership, costs and skills involved e.t.c rather than simply jumping in at the deep end buying and transporting the first shell Im offered.
What would people say if I took on a project such as this, not having the skills or the funds needed to make a good job of it?