DH vampire FB9 (5?) Colours

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I'm a bit of a die cast model collector and I've just taken delivery of a Corgi 1/72 scale DH vampire. The box is marked as "112 Squadron, Fassberg Germany 1952". Its clearly a 6 squadron machine (flying can opener logo) - so I can work out that Corgi have miss-printed the box. What I'd like to ask, is about the colour scheme. Its an all over, not quite PR Blue that I've not seen on a RAF machine, see http://www.flyingmule.com/products/CG-AA37303.

Has anybody seen this scheme before? It seems to be an FB-9, and 6 Squadron was in the Middle East at the time, I was curious about the scheme, I love it but wondered if it was genuine, it seems 1980's but darker?

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That's strange :rolleyes:

'DE HAVILLAND VAMPIRE FB.MK.9 (S/VV625)
No. 6 Squadron RAF,
Habbaniya, Irak 1952
Artikel-Nr: COAA37303
Hersteller: CORGI
Metall-Fertigmodell
Spannweite: 160 mm
Maßstab: 1:72

http://www.corgitoys.de/netshop/assets/s2dmain.html?http://www.corgitoys.de/netshop/flugzeugmodelle/00000096bb0f47413/531629987113fa014/53162998711413718.html

Martin

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Was this one of the aircraft used in early PR overflights ?

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VV625 was produced as an FB5. Was it converted to FB9 standard?

The only FB5 that I can find that was converted was VV675. This aircraft seems to have been used for trials on the new air conditioning fitted FB9s. As far as I can see this was the only conversion. I would be interested in learning if other FB5s were converted.

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Not sure on overflights - no PR "fit"?

Corgi and the others do make some errors on colours, decals etc (had a dragon wings F-14 with spelling mistakes on the decals...) there is a nice 112 Squadron Vampire image complete with sharkmouth I found on the above link. Most models they make, especially of vintage and older planes you can generally find photo's of if you dig - I'm stumped on a blue vampire FB-5 ! - The FB9 designation I got from an ad for the model thats with a large pinch of salt. Seems from the above it is an FB-5, but I'd love to know about the colour. I'm a bit fussy with my models, if its inaccurate I'll sell it on!

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Solved it.......

6 Squadron association filled me in, it should be Silver, seems they took the grey from a black and white picture, I'll be getting my hard earned back then!

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I know about this, as I work for Corgi. This model was accurately researched as a 112 Squadron machine with sharkmouth and green fins by me. For some unknown reason the 'then' Marketing Manager changed it to a 6 squadron machine in an unusual grey colour. As I no longer had any input into this model, reversing this decision was impossible and no reason was given for the change, so I'm not surprised the box says '112 Squadron' as that is what it should have been! :(

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Joined up manager thinking as ever. You must have been peeved Albert?

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Joined up manager thinking as ever. You must have been peeved Albert?

'Peeved' is not a word I would have chosen! There are times when banging your head against a brick wall doesn't help. I hasten to say that shortly afterwards, the Aviation Archive marketing manager was made redundant!

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It really bugs me when people just stick any colours on a model and don't research it properly :mad:

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Thank you for the update !

Marketing, a dream for any Dilbert fan! - The 6 Squadron Association were really helpful (mailed me a few B&W pictures of the real aircraft) and they were going to contact Corgi. When I look at the quality of the gemeni aces and hobby master that I have just got, it puts a question to Corgi. Hobby master are about to bring out griffon engined spit XIV's (1/48 scale) - very unusual....

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The shame is that no-one else is doing Vampires, or is likely to. I will keep mine, being a Vampire fan, and being too late to get all the Mossies, but it is a great shame that they got it SO wrong!

There are so many people who they can consult, that it should be easy to get right!

Bruce

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thats what bugs me....

OK, I should have researched before I ordered it, but it took me less than 2 days to research it, the 6 Squadron association were really helpful ( and less than impressed!) and I'm sure they would have got help from Hatfield! The 112 Squadron one planned would have been interesting as well. Die-cast suppliers seem to be coming out of the woodwork now so maybe somebody else will put one out. That said, there is a choice of thousands that they have not touched yet. Little Russian/Japanese choice (IXO do some but the quality is a little lower than the others), Beaufort, Battle, Hampden, Shackleton, Boston/Havoc, B-26, A-26, F-101, F-100 etc etc etc....

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There are so many people who they can consult, that it should be easy to get right!

Bruce

The same applies to the large-scale Merlin engine. Corgi had a pre-production example at Legends which was very detailled, and generally accurate, but consisted of a Merlin III supercharger with a Merlin XX-type carb and elbow, physically impossible to acheive on the real thing, because the Merlin III blower and carb were one piece, I can only conclude that they used more drawings / photos and less hands-on exhibits to model it.

They have said they will endevour to correct it before it goes into production (in China). I hope so, because it was hideously expensive.

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Yes, I dont think I have yet seen a correctly modelled Merlin engine in any scale, in any model. My favourite was a Spit Mk VIII on the front of Scale Models some years ago, with Griffon engine bearers...

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Yes, I dont think I have yet seen a correctly modelled Merlin engine in any scale, in any model. My favourite was a Spit Mk VIII on the front of Scale Models some years ago, with Griffon engine bearers...

Bruce

Hobbey master (so far..) have been verygood so you may get lucky, just heard that Corgi are recalling the grey Vampires.