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By: - 4th January 2008 at 23:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
From an earlier thread of mine:
Saab 105XT, SE-XBZ 2nd prototype, c/n 105-2 built in 1964 as SE-502. This is the aircraft which belly-landed at Farnborough in 1972, very embarrassing! However there was so little damage it flew again the next day. It went to the Flygvapenmuseum at Linköping in 1982 and was loaned to Svedinos in 2003.
This aircraft can still (2008) be seen at Svedinos, which is the car and aircraft museum at Ugglarp, located an hour south (by car) from Gothenburg.
By: - 4th January 2008 at 23:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
typo - again!
http://www.dhc4and5.org/Buffalo10.html
Details of another Farnborough incident, with pictures, when Buffalo C-GCTC made an extremely heavy landing on September 4, 1984. There is probably video of this somewhere.
By: - 4th January 2008 at 23:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The tragic end of RR299
RR299 (H-TE) was the last wartime Mosquito still flying in the UK when it crashed at Barton Air Show 21/07/96. The cause of the crash was thought to be port engine fuel trouble due the carburettor not being set up properly after overhaul. (There exists a full AAIB Report on this accident)
By: - 5th January 2008 at 02:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.dhc4and5.org/Buffalo10.htmlDetails of another Farnborough incident, with pictures, when Buffalo C-GCTC made an extremely heavy landing on September 4, 1984. There is probably video of this somewhere.
There is a video out there as its always on these worlds wildest video shows.
Edit, here:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7l7PFAp6rBA
Or here without the music:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmYpP-6r7Lo&feature=related
By: - 5th January 2008 at 07:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hello Skybolt,
On 18 Sep 1948 3 Mossies were lost:
TE808 Stalled into Battle of Britain crowd after slow roll,killed the crew and several spectators at Manston,Kent.
TA507 No 51 MU Stalled during aerobatic display Lichfield ,Staffs. Crashed on hospital,killing crew and 10 people on the ground.
VA887 No139 Sqdn. Dived into the ground during slow roll Coningsby,Lincs crew killed.
The Meteor F.8's on 19 Sep 1953 were :
WA927 No 56 Sqdn, Broke up on low level run Wyton,Hunts during BoB display.
WA836 No74 Sqdn Broke up during low level roll Coningsby,Lincs BoB display.
This is sad reading but i deal in straight facts.No nasty comments please.
By: - 5th January 2008 at 07:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Seafire L.111 at Beaulieu was NN313 of the AFEE 25.4.1946. Spun in off roll at 1,500ft in local open day display in deteriorating weather. Sqd/Ldr RH Palmer RAF killed.
I can research more if you wish ?
By: - 5th January 2008 at 07:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Wellington T.10 at Middleton St George was NC430 of No 2 Air Navigation School, dived into the ground on 17 Sept 1949 after a parachute fouled the elevator during a display.
The Spitfire F.22's on 11 Jun 1950 were PK322 of No 611 Sqdn and PK523 of No 607 Sqdn. PK523 lost it's tail during a formation practice for RAF display and crashed near Fleet,Hants.
By: - 5th January 2008 at 09:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for all the information posted so far. It will be most useful in attempting to establish a comprehensive data base of airshow related accidents world wide with as much detail as is possible.
Cheers,
Reaper 69
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By: - 5th January 2008 at 10:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I witnessed the Buffalo incident at Farnborough as a youngster, remember thinking how casual aircraft accidents were, that view changed at the 1986 Mildenhall show.
Interesting, and informative, reading above, and it just goes to show how safe aviation and displaying is now.
By: - 5th January 2008 at 11:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
WA927 No 56 Sqdn, Broke up on low level run Wyton,Hunts during BoB display.
When my dad came to the RAF Wyton Families Day last year, he mentioned this accident as he was stationed at Wyton at the time and saw it happen, and he said it was an 'Auxiliary Reserve'! pilot (Weekend Warrior I think he said) and was doing a low fast pass and exceeded the limits of the aircraft and it broke up in mid air. Pilot did not survive.
Brian
By: - 5th January 2008 at 12:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:eek: 3 Mosquito crashes on the same day, and one into the crowd? I'm surprised they didn't ban airshows all togheter. If this happened today, they probably would have!
I'm glad the world moves forward on some levels!
By: - 5th January 2008 at 12:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Heard stories of the meteor crash at the bob display at coningsby by my late fathers cousin.
He always use tot tell me about how my grandfather jumped on top of my father as he was a small boy incase any parts came flying across.
Told me how he remembered the aircraft breaking up as it flew across the airfield and he cud still see the pilot in the cockpit as it broke off.
A very tragic accident.
Does any body have any detailed information on the tiger moth crash at Raf Binbrook or any photos of this incident at all. ?
By: - 5th January 2008 at 15:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes there were alot of accidents back in the late forties,but rolling near the ground is still a killer i.e the Biggin Hill A-26,Duxford P-38 and Firefly in recent times.
I do think the rules have got better but it's the impromptu or not thought out that still get's pilots at airshows.
I wonder in the 3 Mosquito accidents if the engines cut out or the speed/attitude was wrong ? again they all ran out of recovery height.
By: - 5th January 2008 at 16:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Crash at the 1968 Farnborough Air Show of a Atlantique. I was watching when it did a steeply banked turn over the area where FAST is now located and it slid into the ground killing all the 16? occupants.
I have some photos showing the smoke and some of the removal of the tail, from memory the next day. I wont post them here as I think they are in bad taste and have never been printed. but if they are relevant to research please contact me
I also saw the Buffallo and a Gyrocopter crash in different years
By: - 5th January 2008 at 17:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Tiger Moth crash at RAF Binbrook.
Heard stories of the meteor crash at the bob display at coningsby by my late fathers cousin.
He always use tot tell me about how my grandfather jumped on top of my father as he was a small boy incase any parts came flying across.
Told me how he remembered the aircraft breaking up as it flew across the airfield and he cud still see the pilot in the cockpit as it broke off.
A very tragic accident.
Does any body have any detailed information on the tiger moth crash at Raf Binbrook or any photos of this incident at all. ?
I was stationed at Bibrook at time. The Tiger moth took off immediately after a diplay by three Canberra's. He attempted a low slow roll and hit turbulence from the Canberra's and spun, it's going back a long time, but I don't think he was killed.
Ken
By: - 6th January 2008 at 09:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Talking Tiger Moths, one incident that has always bugged me.
About 45+ years ago we were watching a barn storming display at the annual Hucknall airshow when a Tiger, and I recall the pilot had a foreign name, went too low and ripped off his undercarriage, he pulled out and carried out a perfect 'wheels up' landing on the grass.
Sounds improbable and I was very young at the time, though I do have a good memory, but it happened right in front of me, could it have been part of the act, I don't know, but knowing more about the integrity of airframes these days, it could only have been staged, or could it, over to the Moth experts.
With regard to rolling too low, let us not forget the T-34C Mentor at Mildenhall in the 80's, first fatal crash I witnessed and not dealt with very sensitively by the authorities either, having been shocked by the incident, it didn't help to witness the poor victims being recovered and zipped into their body bags right in front of thousands of spectators, a scene I'll never forget.
By: - 6th January 2008 at 11:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I remember a tiger moth ending up on its nose braking its prop at an airdisplay at RAF Henlow in the mid 60,s. A child ran under the ropes across in front of the tiger forcing the pilot to put the aircraft on its nose. There was a crash at a airshow at Dunstable Downs. When Slingsby Motor Tutor G-AKJD stalled and crashed into the hill on the 21.6.64. The pilot was injured and lifted out of the weckage.
Dave
By: - 6th January 2008 at 16:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Airshow Accidents
Two from my files:
20:09:47
De Havilland Mosquito
Serial No. ?
Crashed at Rempstone, Nottinghamshire during BoB display at Wymeswold.
No further details at present.
20:09:1958
Avro Vulcan
Serial No.VX770
Disintegrated during a high speed, low-level pass at RAF Syerston, Nottinghamshire. Crew and 3 persons on ground killed.
(I believe there are a sequence of still photos, and a film of this accident out there somewhere.)
Regards,
Don
By: - 6th January 2008 at 18:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I too was a witness to the Mentor crash at Mildenhall. I didn't see what went wrong but I heard the engine surge and looked round as the aircraft hit the ground. It seemed an age before anybody got there.
I was also unfortunate enough to witness the mid air collision between Tiger Moth G-ANDE and a Bell Jet Ranger at a Biggin Hill Air Fair.
As far as I remember the Tiger was approaching to land part way along the runway when the Jet Ranger took off into the underside. Neither pilot could have seen the other. The Jet Ranger fell to the ground killing all on board and the Tiger (now minus undercarriage) made a wheels up landing on the grass. It was a sad, shocking and probably avoidable incident which I have never forgotten.
I believe a DH60 Moth also crashed during a Biggin display in the late 70's early 80's (G-ABYA?) but fortunately both occupants survived although they were injured.
Does anyone else remember the incident at a late 60's early 70's Air Fair when a member of the Falcons parachute team landed in front of Mustang
N6356T and his parachute became entangled in the prop. Fortunately the pilot shut down very quickly and I believe the parachutist was comparatively unharmed.
There was also an incident at a PFA Rally at Cranfield where a Percival Gull dropped a wing on take off and hit something like a Cherokee that was taxying. Apparently the Gull involved had always been known to have a tendency to drop a wing and I remember reading that the subsequent rebuild showed that at some time during its life it had landed up with one wing a bit shorter than the other and restoring the correct span cured the problem.
I was standing beside the fire tender when I heard "crash, crash, crash" over the tenders radio at which point it headed for the far end of the field as quickly as possible.
There was also the fatal landing accident at Shuttleworth where a Beech Musketeer hit Fox Moth G-ACEJ which was (I think) already parked on the field. I believe the Fox Moth was all but destroyed in the ensuing fire.
By: - 6th January 2008 at 19:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Worst crash that was fatal that I remember the most were the P38 Lightning going in at Duxford and the Invader crash at Biggin Hill. Both very sad incidents, especially the Invader, knowing it shouldn't have happened:(
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By: Skybolt - 4th January 2008 at 22:29
I hope thread readers my be able to offer information on the following accidents for a friend of mine in South Africa who is assembling a data base of airshow related accidents and analysing the possible causal factors.
AUG 81: DE HAVILLAND CHIPMUNK (ANCONA, ITALY)
25 MAY 1946: SUPERMARINE SEAFIRE, III (BEAULIEU, UK)
???? 1948: DE HAVILLAND MOSQUITO (STAFFORDSHIRE, UK)
A Mosquito in Staffordshire crashed on a hospital during an aerobatic display.
???? 1948: DE HAVILLAND MOSQUITO (KENT, UK)
On the same day as another Mosquito crashed onto a hospital in Staffordshire, this time in Kent, another ‘Mossie; crashed into the crowd during an aerobatic display, tragically killing twelve spectators.
???? 1949: WELLINGTON, (RAF MIDDLETON, ST GEORGE, UK)
The article "A Demonstration in Disaster" recalls a crash involving a Wellington navigational trainer at an airshow held at RAF Middleton, St George, now Teesside Airport)
11 JUNE 1950: SUPERMARINE SPITFIRE (HAMPSHIRE, UK)
PK322 Spitfire, 611 Squadron collided with PK523 during a display practice.
03 AUGUST 1951: DE HAVILLAND DH82A TIGER MOTH (HULLAVINGTON, UK)
Stalled while inverted during a flying display at Hullavington.
19 SEPTEMBER 1953: DH82A TIGER MOTH DE899 (BINBROOK, UK)
Sideslipped into the ground during an air display Binbrook.
???? 1953
A quirk of fate? Two Meteor F-8's from different air stations disintegrated during low runs at air displays, both on the same day.
11 JUNE 1955: DE HAVILLAND DH82C TIGER MOTH (GREENWOOD, CANADA)
Stalled during air show at Greenwood NS.
19??: In a co-ordinated synchro display at Farnborough between a Viggen and a SAAB105 in the mid 70s, the SAAB 105 did a wheels-up landing.
199?: Also at Farnborough In the mid-1990’s, an Su-27 ran off the end of the runway following an instruction to land by the Flying Control Committee because the practice display was apparently all over the place with several contraventions of the display arena. The aircraft touched down fast with more than two-thirds of the runway behind the aircraft! On questioning the pilot about the deep touch-down, he answered: “but you said land immediately – so that’s what I did!”
Any contributions would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Reaper 69
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