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By: - 31st May 2006 at 10:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The 747 + plus other aircraft have devices called "Mass Balance weights" fitted to some control surfaces and these are made out of Depleted Uranium..
Standard practice!..
GASYD
By: - 31st May 2006 at 13:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The 747 + plus other aircraft have devices called "Mass Balance weights" fitted to some control surfaces and these are made out of Depleted Uranium..
Standard practice!..GASYD
So Airbus use D.A. as well? Is this the same as the Americans use for some of their shells (tanks?). I am really trying to find out if there is any radio-activity involved in this practice.
By: - 31st May 2006 at 14:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Every time an old Boeing crashes this seems to come up. The metal was certainly used on Boeings upto & including the 747. Not sure if it was used later than the 747 or by other manufacturers.
S.B.
By: - 1st June 2006 at 02:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Tungsten has replaced Depleted Uranium as the material of choice for counter weights.
By: - 1st June 2006 at 13:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
So Airbus use D.A. as well? Is this the same as the Americans use for some of their shells (tanks?). I am really trying to find out if there is any radio-activity involved in this practice.
Depleted Uranium is rather harmless. Do yourself the favour and check the internet about reports on DU weapons in Gulf War and Kosovo. UNHCR and other organisations considered the risk as minimal.
A catastrophic plane crash normally kills many people, in the El Al case more than 70 people died. It is a little bit strange to ask for the very low risk of long-term risks from D.U.
Your friend that wrote about "... the people still dying" should get an update on his radiation knowledge.
By: - 1st June 2006 at 17:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Depleted Uranium is rather harmless. Do yourself the favour and check the internet about reports on DU weapons in Gulf War and Kosovo. UNHCR and other organisations considered the risk as minimal.
A catastrophic plane crash normally kills many people, in the El Al case more than 70 people died. It is a little bit strange to ask for the very low risk of long-term risks from D.U.Your friend that wrote about "... the people still dying" should get an update on his radiation knowledge.
DU is normally harmless, but when ingested it is rather nasty causing (terminal) deceases. Of all DU on board the El Al 747 only a fraction was recovered. The rest must be assumed as burned up. The dust of that might have caused some of the weird illnesses reported in the Bijlmermeer.
Having said that, the exact cargo of the 747 was never revealed. There have been persistent rumours since day one that the 747 carried (components for) chemical weapons. Some of the cargo was traced back to US chemical plants, and the destination of some of the cargo was traced to known Israeli weapon labs.
Officially the plane only carried electrical equipments, flowers and perfume... but noone really buys that story. Except for officials that is.
By: - 1st June 2006 at 19:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
DU is normally harmless, but when ingested it is rather nasty causing (terminal) deceases. Of all DU on board the El Al 747 only a fraction was recovered. The rest must be assumed as burned up. The dust of that might have caused some of the weird illnesses reported in the Bijlmermeer.Having said that, the exact cargo of the 747 was never revealed. There have been persistent rumours since day one that the 747 carried (components for) chemical weapons. Some of the cargo was traced back to US chemical plants, and the destination of some of the cargo was traced to known Israeli weapon labs.
Officially the plane only carried electrical equipments, flowers and perfume... but noone really buys that story. Except for officials that is.
There are two ways DU can be dangerous: First it is a heavy metal and hence toxic. It works like lead and the symptoms occur rather fast and are clearly distinguishable. For these symptoms the DU needs to be swallowed in a signicant amount.
Second is cancer (radiation desease is impossible due to the low radiation), which is caused by ingested particles of DU. The kinds of cancer caused by this ingested DU are known, too. Many people died of lung cancer for example in Thüringen, Germany, when the Soviets started mining the Uranium there (with 50s Soviet style "safety" measures). People who ingested significant amounts of DU should have measurable higher rate of lung cancer.
Everything else is guesswork and cannot be reasoned scientificly with DU. It is just popular with journalists to blame something nuclear, athough the direct effects of such a low radiation is normally insignificant compared to other influences which might affect all victims (at first phycological problems due to loss of family members and appartment, drug abuse, etc).
By: - 1st June 2006 at 23:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps it is the supposed chemical cargo the plane was carrying that is causing lasting illness effects, if indeed people are "still dying"?
I agree with Schorch on the relative safety of D.U.
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By: Newforest - 31st May 2006 at 08:36
It surprised me to learn that the above 747 crash plane contained 1500kg of depleted uranium which is used in the plane's manufacture as counterweights. Do Airbus use D.A. as a normal product of manufacture and therefore is it present in all commercial planes? It was also interesting to note that the plane contained ingredients for the manufacture of Sarin gas in Israel.
In a message dated 14/04/2006 09:04:41 W. Europe Daylight Time, [email]globalvisionary@earthrainbownetwork.com[/email] writes:
"I have written a lot about that Boeing 747 El Al cargo plane crash - it was transporting components for Sarin gas and other chemicals to Israel from Pennsylvania where they were illegally sold to Israel... by DuPont or some chemical company like that. The plane crashed with 75 tons of kerosene, ten tons of chemicals, and flammable liquids, gases and caustic substances on board. There was also 1500 kilos of depleted uranium used as counterweights in the plane which also burned up. The plane crashed into a neighborhood (of Amsterdam) where people are still dying. The Dutch govt. did a complete coverup. The information about the Plame affair is exactly what I have been writing about. The Bushies/Neocons were also recently involved in the proliferation of nuclear components by various entities including the Israelis and Russian mafia. That is what Plame was investigating through eastern Europe, Turkey (that's what Sibel Edmonds was translating), and Khan in Pakistan. The Carlyle Group and G H W Bush has been involved in nuclear proliferation through Saudi Arabia and the BCCI bank since Carlyle got started in the 80s. Its all connected and part of the reason Plame was outed."
- Leuren Moret - More details on this through http://www.google.ca/search?hl=fr&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=El+Al+Crash+in+Amsterdam&meta=