By: lotus72
- 20th October 2010 at 20:52Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Just clicked on that last link. Apart from the two graphic piccies of XR807, it would be nice if their webmaster could actually spell.
Here's the ONE sentence that accompanies the said photographs:
'With the recovery program complete on the both aircraft, 807 has now been dispossed of after removal of test sections including door aparture and floor beam sections.'
I count THREE spelling mistakes in that one sentence!!
By: pagen01
- 21st October 2010 at 09:07Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
After the new defence cuts, the entire VC10 fleet may be out of service by 2013.
That was planned anyway, I think it was included into the SDSR paper to make things look more dramatic!
the last major is being performed right now and should be ready by the end of December.
By: ajw
- 21st October 2010 at 19:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh right, that's interesting!
Which a/c are having majors now? I guess they will be the last operational planes?? Would I be right in thinking the C1K's are being retired first? And why are they all bar 2 (??) going to be scrapped? Surely there are museums willing to take them on......I would if I have some space lol
By: pagen01
- 21st October 2010 at 20:02Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I will find out tomorrow for you ajw, I can't remember off the top of my head but it is a K.3, there is also a minor in ready for flight at about the same time as the major.
The continued minor services are being bid for by Saints at the moment, which if succesful will keep us going for the next couple of years.
I was thinking of starting a new thread on remaining VC-10 activity, but wasn't sure if it would be populor.
I really can't see them being a major museum attraction unfortunately, not sure if Cosford (especially after scrapping the BA one) are having one and Duxford already has its BOAC model, I think it's mentioned here that Brunty will keep one back.
By: Hot_Charlie
- 21st October 2010 at 20:47Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
IIRC it's '150 (coincidentally the youngest VC10 at 40 this year). '808 should be the last C1K (having just come through a major), potentially Cosford bound.:)
By: EN830
- 21st October 2010 at 21:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm all for old types, however at some point realism has to take precedence over sentimentality, if not the UK would have airfields full of corroding hulks of past types that have past their sell by date and usefulness, but have been kept to pamper to the sentiments of enthusiasts and anoraks.
The VC10 is/has come to the end of its life, the Harrier, even though the GR9 is a far cry from the P1127, can trace it's roots back to the early 60's and is a relatively high maintenance airframe when compared to the more modern types such as Tornado or Typhoon.
Lets not forget that the previous incumbents got rid of the SHARs and Jaguar, so even though are now calling foul, are equally culpable in the demise of the UK's armed forces.
By: Peter
- 21st October 2010 at 22:08Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I still think that an example would look good beside Duxfords civi version.
Now then back to the original topic. When are the next airborne deliveries into Brunty?
By: me109g4
- 22nd October 2010 at 01:07Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
One wonders what the RAF will call itself once they have destroyed all thier aircraft. With 50% of the UK budget going to social programs and increasing every yr. pretty soon thier wont be any armed forces left.
Sure hope all those social programs are worth it, and i hope the world becomes real peaceful, we sure dont have the means to defend the UK anymore with the latest round of cuts. Sorry for the rant,,, JT
By: pagen01
- 12th November 2010 at 11:29Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Re my post #169, it is actually ZA147/F that's currently undergoing its major (last VC-10 major), and will be starting engine runs soon.
XV106 is in on a minor.
Both are due to depart late November, early December.
XV101/S is expected in late November, and XV108/Y in January, both for minors.
By: Hot_Charlie
- 12th November 2010 at 13:39Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I still think that an example would look good beside Duxfords civi version.
Now then back to the original topic. When are the next airborne deliveries into Brunty?
I suspect you may find out sooner rather than later.:)
By: David Burke
- 12th November 2010 at 19:37Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
En830 -I think you might find that the Tornado is a higher maintainance airframe than the Harrier GR9 by a long way! The Harrier II series entered service in the mid to late eighties using a lot of new technology -it owes little to the Harrier I in terms of electronics . The Tornado entered service in 1980 and is very much late 1960s and early 70s electronics .
By: ajw
- 6th January 2011 at 22:24Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is there any more news on the next arrivals?
And which are getting preserved? I know one is going to cosford later this year....see here: http://www.vc10.net/news.html and I understand one is going to Brunty.
It would be nice to get a list of when they are all due in..............
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By: lotus72 - 20th October 2010 at 20:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Just clicked on that last link. Apart from the two graphic piccies of XR807, it would be nice if their webmaster could actually spell.
Here's the ONE sentence that accompanies the said photographs:
'With the recovery program complete on the both aircraft, 807 has now been dispossed of after removal of test sections including door aparture and floor beam sections.'
I count THREE spelling mistakes in that one sentence!!
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By: ajw - 20th October 2010 at 20:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I spy three mistooks too lol
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By: TonyT - 21st October 2010 at 00:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I thought, shuld I contect thum and let thum no thu bard spealinne misteakes on therw pwess releese annd I opeaned thu contact uz paige to sea
Though to be fair they did manage to spell Business correctly on the next persons details....... :p
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By: pagen01 - 21st October 2010 at 09:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That was planned anyway, I think it was included into the SDSR paper to make things look more dramatic!
the last major is being performed right now and should be ready by the end of December.
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By: ajw - 21st October 2010 at 19:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh right, that's interesting!
Which a/c are having majors now? I guess they will be the last operational planes?? Would I be right in thinking the C1K's are being retired first? And why are they all bar 2 (??) going to be scrapped? Surely there are museums willing to take them on......I would if I have some space lol
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By: EN830 - 21st October 2010 at 19:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
My have room for one next year, but will have to be delivered to France :)
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By: ajw - 21st October 2010 at 20:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Personally, I don't care where they go, as long as they're not all scrapped!
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By: pagen01 - 21st October 2010 at 20:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I will find out tomorrow for you ajw, I can't remember off the top of my head but it is a K.3, there is also a minor in ready for flight at about the same time as the major.
The continued minor services are being bid for by Saints at the moment, which if succesful will keep us going for the next couple of years.
I was thinking of starting a new thread on remaining VC-10 activity, but wasn't sure if it would be populor.
I really can't see them being a major museum attraction unfortunately, not sure if Cosford (especially after scrapping the BA one) are having one and Duxford already has its BOAC model, I think it's mentioned here that Brunty will keep one back.
Edit, I think it's ths one ZA150/J
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By: Hot_Charlie - 21st October 2010 at 20:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
IIRC it's '150 (coincidentally the youngest VC10 at 40 this year). '808 should be the last C1K (having just come through a major), potentially Cosford bound.:)
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By: pagen01 - 21st October 2010 at 21:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ha jolly old '808, here she is departing after her major in August.
This is '808 returning after a test flight with the ELRAT extended (propeller thingy in front of stbd u/c)
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By: EN830 - 21st October 2010 at 21:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm all for old types, however at some point realism has to take precedence over sentimentality, if not the UK would have airfields full of corroding hulks of past types that have past their sell by date and usefulness, but have been kept to pamper to the sentiments of enthusiasts and anoraks.
The VC10 is/has come to the end of its life, the Harrier, even though the GR9 is a far cry from the P1127, can trace it's roots back to the early 60's and is a relatively high maintenance airframe when compared to the more modern types such as Tornado or Typhoon.
Lets not forget that the previous incumbents got rid of the SHARs and Jaguar, so even though are now calling foul, are equally culpable in the demise of the UK's armed forces.
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By: Peter - 21st October 2010 at 22:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I still think that an example would look good beside Duxfords civi version.
Now then back to the original topic. When are the next airborne deliveries into Brunty?
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By: me109g4 - 22nd October 2010 at 01:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
One wonders what the RAF will call itself once they have destroyed all thier aircraft. With 50% of the UK budget going to social programs and increasing every yr. pretty soon thier wont be any armed forces left.
Sure hope all those social programs are worth it, and i hope the world becomes real peaceful, we sure dont have the means to defend the UK anymore with the latest round of cuts. Sorry for the rant,,, JT
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By: pagen01 - 12th November 2010 at 11:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Re my post #169, it is actually ZA147/F that's currently undergoing its major (last VC-10 major), and will be starting engine runs soon.
XV106 is in on a minor.
Both are due to depart late November, early December.
XV101/S is expected in late November, and XV108/Y in January, both for minors.
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By: Fouga23 - 12th November 2010 at 11:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I see they already painted the part I can have a lighter shade of grey:D
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By: Hot_Charlie - 12th November 2010 at 13:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I suspect you may find out sooner rather than later.:)
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By: David Burke - 12th November 2010 at 19:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
En830 -I think you might find that the Tornado is a higher maintainance airframe than the Harrier GR9 by a long way! The Harrier II series entered service in the mid to late eighties using a lot of new technology -it owes little to the Harrier I in terms of electronics . The Tornado entered service in 1980 and is very much late 1960s and early 70s electronics .
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By: ajw - 6th January 2011 at 22:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Is there any more news on the next arrivals?
And which are getting preserved? I know one is going to cosford later this year....see here: http://www.vc10.net/news.html and I understand one is going to Brunty.
It would be nice to get a list of when they are all due in..............
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By: pagen01 - 6th January 2011 at 22:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That's great news and the first evidence I've seen of a VC-10 being saved for the RAFM.
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By: WB981 - 7th January 2011 at 20:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I hope by tanker it means C1K. However I am gratefull that one is being saved at all with the current financial climate which the MOD is facing.