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By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Hanger 'spelling' is just bad spelling and absolutely nothing to do with hanging aircraft from the rafters.
Aircraft Sheds have always been known as 'Sheds' (ie Flight Shed or similar) or 'Hangar' which as you say is simply the French for 'Shed' !
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As I wrote prior to deletion I think you are being generous. The reason is twofold - a lack of vocabulary and a dispiriting inability to spell correctly among large numbers of people, both professional who earn their livings from writing, and amateur who contribute to fora and websites. In the case of the former it is inexcusable.
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No insults from me. I entirely agree with Beermat.
My understanding is that the word hangar comes (as you say) from the French, like so much from the early days of aviation, and is the correct term for the buildings that we are discussing. The other spelling does not apply and presumably would only be used when the user is not aware that there is a specific name and spelling for these buildings. Aviation has a language of its own from a cosmopolitan range of sources, and I believe it should be preserved.
In the same way, I (a teacher of English, amongst other things!) am quite happy to advise when apostrophes are used incorrectly, or homophones such as there / their / they're for example. I assume that the the mistakes are made through confusion or lack of understanding, and I would not like to see the erosion of the English language when it is easy to spread the word.
If this makes me a troll, then hopefully Beermat has room under his bridge for me to join him...
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Welcome to 2016 where language can now be used with no regard for spelling or even the appropriate words.
You should of axed this question and not deleted it, cos that's wot my mate done etc.....
Can you borrow me a dictionary? wotever that is.
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Apart from sending the transgressors back to primary school, one option is to use a word replacement plugin for the forum - so when the word "hanger" is submitted it is replaced with "hangar".
Seempels...
Of course, this would then cause problems should someone be desperately searching for advice on buying the best clothes suspension devices to aid with their closet/wardrobe organisation….
Or organization...
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, never thought aircraft were suspended, I was just wondering why the mis-spelling is so rife, and was trying to account for it with reference to the 'popular imagination'.
I have a theory that the mass production of Besseneau Hangars - something the French designer would have called them even before WWI, when the British just called them 'sheds' - might have come to popularise the term in the English language.
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I must admit when we were toying with the idea of "a place in France" I was hugely impressed to find that almost every derelict farm house, came with it's own (derelict) hangar!
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 11:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here here, and don't get me started on "should of" instead of "should have".....!
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 12:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
You might call this a hanger.
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Any other aircraft storage shed is a hangar.
Simple!
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 12:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
About a million years ago, when I were now't but a nipper in school......
I put my hand up and asked the teacher "Please sir, can I go to the toilet?".
He replied "You may, I don't know if you can".
I sat down and crossed my legs - not knowing whether I could go or not!
I have never forgotten that lesson.
Ken
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 12:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I agree with all the strictures.
I can also hear the crash of studded jackboots on the pages of these forums as the massed ranks of the grammar, syntax and spelling Stasi, successors now to the Gestapo, dress to the right and assemble into open order marching !
Tin hats !
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 12:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here here, and don't get me started on "should of" instead of "should have".....!
Exactly! It stems directly from writing what is heard. And when speech is slovenly so is writing. And perhaps it is no longer corrected at school as in the good old days!!:rolleyes:
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 12:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
HANGAR - a thing for putting aeroplanes in.
HANGER - a thing for hanging clothes on.
And yes, I am a proud grammar Nazi.
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 13:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Modern teaching, does not help. I remember going to a parents evening and asking the English teacher why she had only underlined one misspelling of a word when there were five wrong spellings of the same word, her reply was that she knew what was meant. That's a big difference to the sixties when I remember having to write the correct spelling one hundred times when I made a mistake.
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 13:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh come on . this is a forum not a school or a publication, we exchange views and information and puntuation spelling etc are not really an issue in my book.No one is paid to write here either.Lifes to short to spell check everything on line.
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 14:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
HANGAR - a thing for putting aeroplanes in.HANGER - a thing for hanging clothes on.
And yes, I am a proud grammar Nazi.
Careful: you'd get expelled from the Labour party for saying that (or less)!
:)
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 14:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh come on...
Take the dunces cap and go and stand in the corner...;o)
Of and off - some appear to use the former for the latter - WHY?
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 14:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
...and why the current habit of writing, could 'of', should 'of' etc?
I used to think this was a quaint Bristolianism, but it's becoming universal.
And don't get me started in it's and its!!!
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 15:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[QUOTE=scotavia;2309700.Lifes to short to spell check everything on line.[/QUOTE]
Therein lies the whole problem.......:rolleyes:
By: - 2nd May 2016 at 15:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here here, and don't get me started on "should of" instead of "should have".....!
or "can I get a....." instead of "can I have a......"
language naturally changes and develops but it doesn't mean you have to like those changes.
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By: Beermat - 2nd May 2016 at 10:47
I tried posting this earlier and got called a troll for it. To my shame I flounced and then deleted. Please be kind this time.
I note a shift from 'hangar' (from the French meaning 'big storage shed', and another borrowing like aileron or fuselage) to 'hanger' (perhaps on the understanding that aircraft were once suspended somehow). This has been prevalent in journalism for some time, and is creeping onto this forum. How does one stop this? I am posting as I know that non-specialist journalists use this forum as a resource.
It may not be important to some (sorry if you find me troll-like), but others find the language of aviation a part of its heritage.
I am braced for the insults this time.