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By: - 6th August 2011 at 21:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Looks like 31 killed. :(:mad:
By: - 6th August 2011 at 21:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
38 killed.
By: - 6th August 2011 at 21:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Really sad RIP. Its not futile stupidity these ***** need to be stopped wish more nations will send troops and aircraft.
By: - 6th August 2011 at 22:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
most of them ST-6 members, many of whom participated in the OBL raid. sad sad incident.
http://www.military.com/news/article/afghan-president-31-americans-killed-in-crash.html
edit: latest reports say these were not ST-6, still a very sad event.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 00:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
R.I.P.
Besides the human side of the tragedy, that's a big blow to the special forces community. Can't remember that many SF operators killed in a single event.
One must raise a question what was a fully laden CH-47 doing in a hot LZ, though. Next to the MV-22 it's pretty much the last machine I would send in.. :confused:
By: - 7th August 2011 at 00:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I know they would probably ALL volunteer to go over there, but..........hadnt those guys done enough?! They did their bit. Give them a break........after the OBL raid they should have been withdrawn from overseas for at least a year. IMO.:(
By: - 7th August 2011 at 00:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It is futile: it's been 10 years now, and what has been achieved?
By: - 7th August 2011 at 03:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
how many terror attacks have happened on US soil in those 10 years ? there's your answer.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 05:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As upsetting as this is,it is another loss in a long,pointless war.Operation Anaconda saw a few Chinooks get lost in the same way as this one.So,in a way,this isn't suprising.Chinooks are not the best thing for hot/high ops. And to quad bike: Why would other nations want to send their aircraft in to get shot down and soldiers killed for no reason!?This is exactly why alot of the NATO nations have been WITHDRAWING from not only Afghanistan,but Iraq as well.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 05:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
How can it be such a coincidence that most killed are involved in the OBL raid. Those killed include Afgan soldier onboard. It looks like well planned revenge mission.
I always believe Afgan soldiers can never be trusted....
By: - 7th August 2011 at 08:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
futile?
..i am proud to have served in afghanistan for whatever politics involved i and all the other nations and every soldier that are there have done there bit to stop a bunch of evil people torture and murder normal peaceful people who just want to get on with there life,it was worth doing.if you have been on your beltbuckle rounds hitting the ground between you and your afghan army buddies fighting with you then you can put smart **** comments about not being able to trust any of them.r.i.p yanks and the A.N.A with them.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 08:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
How can it be such a coincidence that most killed are involved in the OBL raid. Those killed include Afgan soldier onboard. It looks like well planned revenge mission.I always believe Afgan soldiers can never be trusted....
None of the 22 SEAL personnel killed in the crash were part of the team that killed bin Laden in a May raid in Pakistan, but they belonged to the same unit.
http://newsok.com/copter-shot-down-killing-30-us-troops-7-afghans/article/feed/283288?custom_click=headlines_widget
By: - 7th August 2011 at 09:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Love the comments about this being a futile war... how many of you have served in it? yeah thought so. the soldiers that are there want to be there.... and its a war that can be won..... but not in a few months like most people want.... wars like the gulf war, won over a few months are NOT the norm. so you actually think it'll be better if we withdraw and let afghanistan fall, meaning pakistan will too.... and then we have terrorists with nukes..... no..... i can see the logic in that:rolleyes:
RIP brave warrior brothers.... you wont be forgotten
By: - 7th August 2011 at 10:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
..i am proud to have served in afghanistan for whatever politics involved i and all the other nations and every soldier that are there have done there bit to stop a bunch of evil people torture and murder normal peaceful people who just want to get on with there life,it was worth doing.if you have been on your beltbuckle rounds hitting the ground between you and your afghan army buddies fighting with you then you can put smart **** comments about not being able to trust any of them.r.i.p yanks and the A.N.A with them.
So true people are only thinking about economy and all that and not caring about moral side of the war and whats right and wrong.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 10:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As upsetting as this is,it is another loss in a long,pointless war.Operation Anaconda saw a few Chinooks get lost in the same way as this one.So,in a way,this isn't suprising.Chinooks are not the best thing for hot/high ops. And to quad bike: Why would other nations want to send their aircraft in to get shot down and soldiers killed for no reason!?This is exactly why alot of the NATO nations have been WITHDRAWING from not only Afghanistan,but Iraq as well.
Actually, Chinooks are perhaps the best helicopters ofr hot and high environments.
Problems arise when they get hitted, as with any other equipment in the world.
The best defence is always a carefull routes' planning and surprise's exploitation, but when by chance or by enemy intel you get to the wrong place in the wrong time, there is little left to save the day.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 10:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Love the comments about this being a futile war... how many of you have served in it? yeah thought so. the soldiers that are there want to be there.... and its a war that can be won..... but not in a few months like most people want.... wars like the gulf war, won over a few months are NOT the norm. so you actually think it'll be better if we withdraw and let afghanistan fall, meaning pakistan will too.... and then we have terrorists with nukes..... no..... i can see the logic in that:rolleyes:RIP brave warrior brothers.... you wont be forgotten
I wouldn't like to derail the thread, but it is upon the citizens to choose whether it's an effort worth of the costs, not upon those fighting there.
I would dare to say that in most of the involved countries, people would choose to pull out of Afghanistan in a hurry, if actually asked what they think of their country engagement.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 10:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This war will never be won. Karzai is a crook, and even organisations like the red cross finances the taliban if only by just paying a rent that is many times market price for all real estate, and who does the real estate belong to? The war lords.
Nic
By: - 7th August 2011 at 11:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I wouldn't like to derail the thread, but it is upon the citizens to choose whether it's an effort worth of the costs, not upon those fighting there.I would dare to say that in most of the involved countries, people would choose to pull out of Afghanistan in a hurry, if actually asked what they think of their country engagement.
That is because a few countries are bearing the brunt, the operation should be internationalized, let the Russians, Indians, Chinese all do it like the Anti Piracy operation.
Security of the rest of the world is just as important as Afghan peoples freedom.
By: - 7th August 2011 at 11:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That is because a few countries are bearing the brunt, the operation should be internationalized, let the Russians, Indians, Chinese all do it like the Anti Piracy operation.Security of the rest of the world is just as important as Afghan peoples freedom.
hahahaha yeah ask the russian to come help in Afghanistan :rolleyes:
Nic
By: - 7th August 2011 at 11:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
hahahaha,yeah the ruskies would love to see the taliban ex muj fanatics have nukes and go for some pay back,this thread could get huge,it is about the loss of a group of men all who wanted to be there who lost there lives doing what any fair minded thinking person can see to BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO,39-45 wasnt easy but it was right...dutch,french,belgium,c/s,you are there now remember your past.
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By: AutoStick - 6th August 2011 at 21:06
Just heard that the US has lost a Chinook in Afganistan----Big loss of life.
How much longer does this futile stupidity have to go on for ????