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By: 5th December 2005 at 22:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-This should give you some idea:
Adapted from here:
http://navysite.de/cvn/cvw.htm
The nominal Air Group Composition in 1960(For all carriers except as noted):
2 Fighter Squadrons (VF) 24-28 F-8 or F-3
3 Attack Squadrons (VA) 36 A-4 (Skyraider AD-X/A1-X or other such as the Fury below in 1960 for the Oriskany)
1 Heavy Attack Squadron (VAH) 10-12 A-3 (Not on Essex class)
Total: ~70 aircraft
Additionally:
1 Carrier Early Warning Squadron (VAW) AD-5 Detachment (2 aircraft Essex class)
1 Light Photographic Squadron (VFP) RF-8G Detachment (2 aircraft Essex class)
1 VAH Detachment KA-3D for tanking(2 aircraft Essex class)
1 HU-1 Detachment 2 Helos
For the deployment following modernization see below:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/gonavy/atsugi/gonavy60634f.html
(Last update on Jun.16, 2004)
CVG-14 (NK)
CVA-34 ORISKANY
May 14, 1960 - Dec.15, 1960 (WestPac)
Squadron
VF-141 (*1)
Iron Angels
F3H-2
VF-142 (*2)
Fighting Falcons
F8U-2
VA-146
Blue Diamonds
FJ-4B
VA-144
Road Runners
FJ-4B
VA-145
Swordsmen
AD-6
VAH-4 DET.F
Fourrunners
A3D-2
VCP-63 DET.F (*3)
Eyes of the Fleet
F8U-1P
VAW-11 DET.F
Early Eleven
HU-1 DET.F
Pacific Fleet Angels
.
(*1) redesignated VF-53 on Oct.15, 1963
(*2) redesignated VF-96 on Jun.1, 1962
(*2) redesignated VFP-63 on Jul.1, 1961
For this Vietnam deployment. Click on the link below:
CVW-16 (AH)
CVA-34 USS ORISKANY
(Apr.5,1965 - Dec.16,1965)
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/gonavy/atsugi/gonavy60634f.html
It looks to me like it could be 86 aircraft:
32 F-8
31 A-4
15 A-1
and the usual 8 in the various detachments.
It appears that during combat operations more aircraft are carried than during peace time ops.
Hope this helps.
By: 5th December 2005 at 23:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Up to 80 were possible.
One pic from the 60s showed close to 50 on the flight-deck alone.
The A-4s did not consume much space.
" The Mighty O began her 11th cruise April 16, 1969. On board was Carrier Air Wing 19 with VF-191 and VF-194 in F-8J Crusaders, VA-23 and VA-195 in A-4E Skyhawks, VA-192 in A-4F Skyhawks, VAW-111 in E-18 Tracers, VAQ-130 in EKA-3B Skywarriors and VFP-63 in RF-8G photo Crusaders."
Not counting in the helicopters.
By: 5th December 2005 at 23:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-every time I look for the number of aircraft for the Oriskany after it's conversion to an angled flight deck.. i'm always given WW2 figures. How many aircraft did this aircraft carry at the end of it's days?
Impossible, because that CV entered service after WWII in the 50s.
By: 5th December 2005 at 23:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-"Impossible, because that CV entered service after WWII in the 50s"
Er I think he meant the Essex class as a whole rather
than the Oriskany itself.
By: 5th December 2005 at 23:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-"Impossible, because that CV entered service after WWII in the 50s"Er I think he meant the Essex class as a whole rather
than the Oriskany itself.
Not too much honor to "Hamburger" about that.
By: 6th December 2005 at 01:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-"Impossible, because that CV entered service after WWII in the 50s"Er I think he meant the Essex class as a whole rather
than the Oriskany itself.
sort of ;) me thoughts when they said 80, it was with WW2 era aircraft. I was thinking of something around 40-50 with a modern load.
By: 6th December 2005 at 01:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-OK that answers that. LOL
Anyway in 1973 during another Vietnam deployment it appears they carried 83 aircraft:
27 F-8J
40 A-7A/B
4 RF-8G
4 EKA3-D
4 E-1B
3 SH-3G
1 C-1A
By: 6th December 2005 at 01:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-^how about at the very end.. that's what I'm most concerned about and stated from the very beginning? I'mnot sure, but I do believe it had F-18s.
By: 6th December 2005 at 01:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Actually this is what you asked first:
"how many aircraft on USS Oriskany after mod?"
No F-18 aircraft were in-service before Oriskany decommissioned in 1976. IOC for the F-18 was February 1981.
But heres the squadrons and the detachments for its last deployment. I dont know the exact numbers. But it being peacetime I would quess:
24 F-8
36 A-7
2-4 RF8-G
2-4 E-1B
2 SH-3G
CVW-19 (NM)
CV-34 ORISKANY
Sep.16, 1975 - Mar.3, 1976 (WestPac)
VF-191
Satan's Kittens
F-8J
VF-194
Red Lightnings
F-8J
VA-153
Blue Tail Flies
A-7B
VA-215
Barn Owls
A-7B
VA-155
Silver Foxes
A-7B
VFP-63 DET.4
Eyes of the Fleet
RF-8G
RVAW-110 DET.4
Firebirds
E-1B
HC-1 DET.4
Pacific Fleet Angels
SH-3G
Oriskany Decommissioned : Sep.20, 1976
By: 6th December 2005 at 01:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Oriskany Decommissioned : Sep.20, 1976
my apologies.. guess it's not the Oriskany I was trying to look for. I was trying to find the aircraft load of the last "escort/light/non super carrier".. and got the Oriskany mixed up for something else. All I remember is this carrier lasted all the way into the 90s. :(
By: 6th December 2005 at 02:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-You would be looking for USS Midway CV 41.
This ship had been homeported in Japan from October 1973 until August 1991. She began stand-down on October 1, 1991 and decommissioned to reserve on April 11, 1992.
Her final air group was CVW-5 consisting of:
36 F/A-18
18 A-6E
4 EA-6B
4 E-2C
6 SH-3H
By: 8th December 2005 at 10:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Here is a web page that has all US carriers and there history. www.navsource.org
you can check almost every ship that ever served in the navy starting around the turn of the century to present.
Dan
By: 8th December 2005 at 10:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-F-18,
last I checked she was sitting in Pensacola, Fl waiting to be sunk as an artifical reef.
Dan
Just check and apparently she is in Beaumont, Texas waiting out the 2006 hurricane season and something about the EPA delaying her sinking.
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rickusn,
good call on the #'s. That's pretty much what we had onboard when i was on her in 88-89 (one long year)
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By: F-18 Hamburger - 5th December 2005 at 19:50
every time I look for the number of aircraft for the Oriskany after it's conversion to an angled flight deck.. i'm always given WW2 figures. How many aircraft did this aircraft carry at the end of it's days?