The great thing about Tusks comment, apart from being true, is that the only people who get offended are those he’s talking about, truth hurts I guess JG? Being a bit of a snowflake and sensitive there though, toughen up old boy, there’s worse to come.
And it’s a pretty fair statement, to get this far, barely weeks away, with nothing, shows what a colossal monumental f*ck up the whole thing is.
“One thing above all is certain. The Leave campaign has been re-invigorated and refreshed by this remarkably spiteful tirade. And they are supposed to be our friends and allies !”
...the ones the likes of you and your croneys have been calling Nazis, queue jumpers, dictators, the enemy etc etc etc, or is name calling only great if it’s done against the EU?
Your narrow minded comments really do border on the absurd at times!
By: John Green
- 9th February 2019 at 11:31Permalink- Edited 9th February 2019 at 16:32
Governmental incompetence is nothing new. It is practiced with some expertise by the 'left' and the 'right'. It isn't a feature of political allegiances, more a fact that stupidity abounds, as Mr. Tusk now realises to his discredit.
One thing is certain. Mr. Tusk's comments must not result in his enforced resignation from the EU Brexit merry-go-round. He is now an asset of the greatest value to the Leave campaign.
We should do all that we can to support him, hoping to receive yet another Tusk gem.
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By: St. John
- 9th February 2019 at 15:54Permalink
I agree, he should continue working in his special place in hell.:cool:
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By: St. John
- 9th February 2019 at 16:47Permalink
By: Agent K
- 11th February 2019 at 09:34Permalink
Mr. BS evidence confirms that you're the one prone to tantrums and posting a myriad of biased videos to make up for your inability to construct a coherent point of view.
JG again your initial bravado and bold statements of the unicorn inhabited golden uplands post brexit plummets to you excusing the incompetence it has nurtured. Come on, take your rose tinted glasses off and be objective, see it for what it is.
By: Agent K
- 13th February 2019 at 12:06Permalink
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Do people really believe everything they read. Seriously? We can't make our own body bags?"
....and such a manufacturing facility could be created and up and running, with contracts secured, and infrastructure and logistics and delivery framework set up in weeks? I think not..........
Of course longer term it's possible, but you can't just turn on and off such capabilities.
By: John Green
- 13th February 2019 at 18:11Permalink
I read in today's D. Tel. Business, that former arch promoter of Project Fear, Bank of England honcho Mark Carney, now declares, in a truly spectacular 'about turn' that, "Brexit can kickstart a golden era of trade in contrast to earlier warnings".
Mark, welcome to reality ! Carney went on: "Brexit could usher in a golden era of international co-operation and cross border commerce".
AK, that should tick some of your boxes. You seem to be an inveterate 'desponder' and 'gloomer' perhaps the Carney message will dispel bad thoughts !
By: St. John
- 13th February 2019 at 19:13Permalink
Not lies, not fear, not made up, but sad reality anf fact.
It will gain tons of extra sales in the UK after EU exports are tariffed and NTB'd out of the UK internal market.
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By: St. John
- 13th February 2019 at 19:14Permalink
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Do people really believe everything they read. Seriously? We can't make our own body bags?"
....and such a manufacturing facility could be created and up and running, with contracts secured, and infrastructure and logistics and delivery framework set up in weeks? I think not..........
Of course longer term it's possible, but you can't just turn on and off such capabilities.
By: Agent K
- 14th February 2019 at 09:33Permalink- Edited 14th February 2019 at 09:42
"It will gain tons of extra sales in the UK after EU exports are tariffed and NTB'd out of the UK internal market."
Need to do your research boy, Ford stopped making cars in the UK in the early 2000's, Ford production is engines and such in the UK, so every car will have a tariff added at the current state. The problem with many brexiteers is their fundamental lack of knowledge and then making things up.
And where are these make believe extra sales coming from, just out of curiosity, what mass segment of the market that doesn't own a vehicle right now and will suddenly flood the showrooms buying them? please explain.
By: Agent K
- 14th February 2019 at 09:41Permalink
Apart from the fact that Mark Carney didn't say that JG, which is why I give this cheap and unreliable rag a wide berth..... other than that and all the other mistakes they got it spot on.....
Now why is it when the narrative of a future specualtion suits your view, it's stone hard fact, whereas when business leaders and intellectuals and experts in their field forecast future conditions based on their significant expereince it's written off by you. Your biases cloud and inhibit any sensible and lucid reasoning.
By: St. John
- 14th February 2019 at 10:19Permalink- Edited 14th February 2019 at 10:20
"It will gain tons of extra sales in the UK after EU exports are tariffed and NTB'd out of the UK internal market."
Need to do your research boy, Ford stopped making cars in the UK in the early 2000's, Ford production is engines and such in the UK, so every car will have a tariff added at the current state. The problem with many brexiteers is their fundamental lack of knowledge and then making things up.
And where are these make believe extra sales coming from, just out of curiosity, what mass segment of the market that doesn't own a vehicle right now and will suddenly flood the showrooms buying them? please explain.
So they will have to start making cars here to sell them here after Brexit.
Cars are selling all the time, after Brexit NTBs alone could slow the supply of cars from the EU down to a trickle, not to mention jacking up the price on top of tariffs, so car manufacturers left in the UK will have the competitive advantage.
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By: Agent K - 8th February 2019 at 22:54 Permalink
The great thing about Tusks comment, apart from being true, is that the only people who get offended are those he’s talking about, truth hurts I guess JG? Being a bit of a snowflake and sensitive there though, toughen up old boy, there’s worse to come.
And it’s a pretty fair statement, to get this far, barely weeks away, with nothing, shows what a colossal monumental f*ck up the whole thing is.
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By: Agent K - 8th February 2019 at 22:57 Permalink
“One thing above all is certain. The Leave campaign has been re-invigorated and refreshed by this remarkably spiteful tirade. And they are supposed to be our friends and allies !”
...the ones the likes of you and your croneys have been calling Nazis, queue jumpers, dictators, the enemy etc etc etc, or is name calling only great if it’s done against the EU?
Your narrow minded comments really do border on the absurd at times!
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By: Agent K - 9th February 2019 at 09:03 Permalink
You couldn’t even make it up! The incompetence raises to an even higher level. Suggests my comments earlier about due diligence were spot on.
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By: John Green - 9th February 2019 at 11:31 Permalink - Edited 9th February 2019 at 16:32
Governmental incompetence is nothing new. It is practiced with some expertise by the 'left' and the 'right'. It isn't a feature of political allegiances, more a fact that stupidity abounds, as Mr. Tusk now realises to his discredit.
One thing is certain. Mr. Tusk's comments must not result in his enforced resignation from the EU Brexit merry-go-round. He is now an asset of the greatest value to the Leave campaign.
We should do all that we can to support him, hoping to receive yet another Tusk gem.
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By: St. John - 9th February 2019 at 15:54 Permalink
I agree, he should continue working in his special place in hell.:cool:
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By: St. John - 9th February 2019 at 16:47 Permalink
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By: Agent K - 11th February 2019 at 09:34 Permalink
Mr. BS evidence confirms that you're the one prone to tantrums and posting a myriad of biased videos to make up for your inability to construct a coherent point of view.
JG again your initial bravado and bold statements of the unicorn inhabited golden uplands post brexit plummets to you excusing the incompetence it has nurtured. Come on, take your rose tinted glasses off and be objective, see it for what it is.
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By: John Green - 11th February 2019 at 10:09 Permalink
AK
Are you on something exotic ? Your incoherence is incoherent !
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By: Agent K - 11th February 2019 at 21:07 Permalink
“Are you on something exotic ? Your incoherence is incoherent !”
Double negative there, that therefore makes it coherent!
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By: St. John - 12th February 2019 at 10:24 Permalink
Do people really believe everything they read. Seriously? We can't make our own body bags?
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By: Agent K - 13th February 2019 at 12:02 Permalink
Not lies, not fear, not made up, but sad reality anf fact.
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By: Agent K - 13th February 2019 at 12:06 Permalink
"
Do people really believe everything they read. Seriously? We can't make our own body bags?"
....and such a manufacturing facility could be created and up and running, with contracts secured, and infrastructure and logistics and delivery framework set up in weeks? I think not..........
Of course longer term it's possible, but you can't just turn on and off such capabilities.
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By: John Green - 13th February 2019 at 18:11 Permalink
I read in today's D. Tel. Business, that former arch promoter of Project Fear, Bank of England honcho Mark Carney, now declares, in a truly spectacular 'about turn' that, "Brexit can kickstart a golden era of trade in contrast to earlier warnings".
Mark, welcome to reality ! Carney went on: "Brexit could usher in a golden era of international co-operation and cross border commerce".
AK, that should tick some of your boxes. You seem to be an inveterate 'desponder' and 'gloomer' perhaps the Carney message will dispel bad thoughts !
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By: trekbuster - 13th February 2019 at 18:42 Permalink
Unfortunately for you and the Torybrexitgraph he didn't actually say those words....
https://fullfact.org/europe/mark-carney-brexit-golden-age/
the main thust of the speech was suggesting global growth is faltering
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/speech/2019/the-global-outlook-speech-by-mark-carney.pdf?la=en&hash=6725EA590D46F11FBFDFF4744E4E90158D4BCECE#page=19
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By: St. John - 13th February 2019 at 19:13 Permalink
It will gain tons of extra sales in the UK after EU exports are tariffed and NTB'd out of the UK internal market.
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By: St. John - 13th February 2019 at 19:14 Permalink
I'm sure we really could if it was an emergency.
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By: John Green - 13th February 2019 at 22:44 Permalink
I know this will surprise you but, I prefer the D. Tel. version of the report. It is bound to contain the least number of inaccuracies.
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By: Agent K - 14th February 2019 at 09:33 Permalink - Edited 14th February 2019 at 09:42
"It will gain tons of extra sales in the UK after EU exports are tariffed and NTB'd out of the UK internal market."
Need to do your research boy, Ford stopped making cars in the UK in the early 2000's, Ford production is engines and such in the UK, so every car will have a tariff added at the current state. The problem with many brexiteers is their fundamental lack of knowledge and then making things up.
And where are these make believe extra sales coming from, just out of curiosity, what mass segment of the market that doesn't own a vehicle right now and will suddenly flood the showrooms buying them? please explain.
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By: Agent K - 14th February 2019 at 09:41 Permalink
Apart from the fact that Mark Carney didn't say that JG, which is why I give this cheap and unreliable rag a wide berth..... other than that and all the other mistakes they got it spot on.....
Now why is it when the narrative of a future specualtion suits your view, it's stone hard fact, whereas when business leaders and intellectuals and experts in their field forecast future conditions based on their significant expereince it's written off by you. Your biases cloud and inhibit any sensible and lucid reasoning.
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By: St. John - 14th February 2019 at 10:19 Permalink - Edited 14th February 2019 at 10:20
So they will have to start making cars here to sell them here after Brexit.
Cars are selling all the time, after Brexit NTBs alone could slow the supply of cars from the EU down to a trickle, not to mention jacking up the price on top of tariffs, so car manufacturers left in the UK will have the competitive advantage.